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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by dogleash on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:52AM (#33640661)
>email to 200 recipients they can all store it

On discord there are no 200 individual "they" storing it. It's stored by discord. (Or I guess people could be manually logging their own chats, but that's not the issue at hand here.)

At first pass it might sound like some minor technical squabble about implementation details, but there is intentionality in design decisions. The legal system can not be blind to those.

Discord chose a design that put them in control of the data. I'm not saying the highly centralized nature of their design is bad, wrong, or wasn't the best choice for the product they want to build. What I am saying is that when the legal system looks at the nature of a product, it has to look beyond what's presented in the pretty UI and marketing materials. It will look at the business' processes too.

Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by namdnay on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:16AM (#33641056)
But that’s the same for gmail. If I send a mail to 200 gmail contacts, that mail doesn’t disappear when I delete my account
Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by dogleash on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:33AM (#33641341)
True. This is why I mentioned intentionality in design.

The design of email means there is an argument for the legal system that gmail is a very very popular post office. That email is a system wherein users have disparate storage areas for receiving/archiving emails, and gmail is one of many organizations that offers users the service of managing their individualized storage area on their behalf.

In the service that is email, there is nothing inherently special about gmail. In the service that is discord, discord is discord.

Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by doublerabbit on Thursday November 17, 2022 @12:23PM (#33642291)
I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates. They all carrier data to a username@somewhere. Whether it a tld, username, id.

IRC enables Text & Attachments in text form (ie links)

Email Enables Attachments in visual (html emails)

Discord Enables Voice, Text and Attachments (Asynchronous sockets)

That's all it is. Present a Video, Picture, Voice to your visitor and you've got a new product. Just as facebook,twitter,myspace.

Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by sangnoir on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:50PM (#33645463)
> I would argue that discord and IRC, are email too. It's just the protocol of communication dictates.

Assuming all this is correct, if a GMail user requests their account to be deleted, Google should delete that data.

Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by pessimizer on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:32AM (#33641324)
But it does disappear when all 201 of you delete your accounts.