Re:Lemmy: A Federated Reddit Alternative
by skissane on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:19PM
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I asked what we should call "a particular strand of left-of-centre thought, with a great deal of contemporary influence". Your answer ("knee-jerk" which "doesn't have a specific axis connotation") isn't actually answering the question I was asking, because a term intended to apply to people with widely differing ideologies (obviously) isn't appropriate as a label for one particular contemporary ideological stream.
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Re:Lemmy: A Federated Reddit Alternative
by rnd0 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @11:25PM
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I misunderstood your intent -I thought the idea was to suggest a term which could be applied to the True Believer regardless of ideology. I didn't realize you simply wanted another phrase you could sling at the left.
My apologies.
Re:Lemmy: A Federated Reddit Alternative
by skissane on Thursday November 17, 2022 @05:25AM
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You absolutely have misunderstood my intent – I was asking for a descriptive term for a particular current of contemporary left-leaning thought, to replace a term which has admittedly become rather pejorative in connotation – yet you seem to misunderstand me as looking for a pejorative instead. And "woke" is still not exclusively pejorative–it is not hard to find people calling themselves "proudly woke"–maybe that's ironic, or "reclaiming"; but couldn't also some of it be in homage to, or even in continuity with, its origin as a positive self-descriptor? And not all critical invocations of "woke" are fairly labelled as "pejorative"–such as when Reed criticises "woke" from a Marxist perspective. [0]
Surely it is valuable to find descriptive terminology for different ideological currents – across the totality of the political spectrum? The traditional Marxist answer is "yes" – followed up with an analysis of the ways in which those various currents support class interests, which is what Reed presents for "woke".
[0] https://newrepublic.com/article/160305/beyond-great-awokenin...