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Re:Erik Hoel on Effective Altruism, Utilitarianism, and the ... by sweetheart on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @08:59AM (#33622973)
Sure, but _why_ is the question. I cannot understand how you think more good comes from making sure the local boys soccer club has a clean field to play vs. ensuring 4 families will sleep without the risk of contracting malaria. What makes you value the former more than the latter?

If you were the family facing malaria, and someone tried to donate the nets to you, would you sell them and donate the proceeds to their local soccer club?

Re:Erik Hoel on Effective Altruism, Utilitarianism, and the ... by throw_pm23 on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @03:27PM (#33630033)
I'm confused about the _why_ question.

What makes me value the former more than the latter is that it is closer to me. My utility for problems near me is much higher than for problems far away.

If my family would face malaria, I would care more about that than about faraway soccer clubs.

Also, I find that goodwill at a distance has a terrible track record. In a recent case, someone who was preaching effective altruism stole 10B instead. I'd rather he stayed poor and donated $10 to the local soccer club.

Re:Erik Hoel on Effective Altruism, Utilitarianism, and the ... by circular_lights on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @05:20PM (#33631686)
"More good" reeks of nerdy utilitarianism which I completely reject. What makes me value the soccer team is love and kinship and vitalism. Mine extends to the local boys playing soccer. I want to see them thrive. I do not care about the malaria net folks. No ill will - I just do not care, I want them occupying no part of my brain.

And certainly no dorky nerds unable to comprehend human reality and attempting to force everyone in their abstract streamlined toy-reality with Philosophy 101 word games will change my mind.

Re:Erik Hoel on Effective Altruism, Utilitarianism, and the ... by sweetheart on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @10:11PM (#33634464)
yikes