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Re:The good delusion: has effective altruism broken bad? by MichaelCollins on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @10:59PM (#33618672)
> So would most people, and we wouldn’t call it altruism.

Most people would call helping a relative pay their medical bills altruism. It's also the selfish and rational choice. It's both simultaneously.

Re:The good delusion: has effective altruism broken bad? by unmole on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @02:08AM (#33619888)
> Most people would call helping a relative pay their medical bills altruism.

Altruism is the disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others. Helping your family is not altruism.

Re:The good delusion: has effective altruism broken bad? by NateEag on Wednesday November 16, 2022 @12:15PM (#33626713)
> Helping your family is not altruism.

Not necessarily altruism.

It absolutely could be.

Knowing the true motives of another human is very difficult, perhaps impossible (without a predictive biological model of consciousness we can't be sure we're reading minds correctly, and it's still an open question whether such a thing can exist).