Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow

Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by nonameiguess on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @09:22AM (#33609464)

The fact that you have a skip*10 manager seems to speak to some middle manager bloat. That's military levels of bureaucracy, though in the military's case, at least they have the excuse that they're overstaffing on purpose to keep slack around so they can maintain operational continuity in the event of a mass death event during combat.

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by scarface74 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @09:30AM (#33609552)

Amazon is the second largest employee in the US and a manager can only adequately manage so many people.

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by bart_spoon on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @09:47AM (#33609729)

It really depends on where they work at Amazon. The reason Amazon is the second largest employer is presumably because of the tens of thousands of warehouse/delivery employees. If they are working in a corporate setting, and there is still 10 levels of management between them and the CEO, I imagine it to be pretty bloated.

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by scarface74 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @10:13AM (#33610092)

If each manager should only manage 15-20 people (https://www.yourerc.com/blog/post/span-of-control-how-many-e...)

Do the math. Amazon also has at least two major verticals - retail and AWS. Within AWS, Amazon has multiple departments and markets.

Without giving too much away, let’s start with the obvious (and I’m just guessing, I am not looking at the internal tool to see the hierarchy right now)

CEO of Amazon -> CEO of AWS -> Manager of my specific department worldwide -> manager of specific geographies -> manager of specific verticals within that market -> my manager.

That’s 6. I’m sure I’m missing a few and I just completely made up that hierarchy. But it is a logical division.

A typical McDonalds worked in a corporate owned store could probably go up 6 levels

- worker

- shift lead

- store manager

- regional manager

- district manager

- two more levels

- CEO

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by hotpotamus on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @09:53AM (#33609803)

My impression is that a lot of the retail type workers are managed by/with a lot of automation. I've read that they can be fired simply by KPI without human review. If that's correct, I can say I wouldn't want to be the one to write that code.

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by throwayyy479087 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @06:01PM (#33616431)

log(1.6MM) = 6.2

He has 6 people between him and the CEO. Oddly close. Maybe Amazon isn’t bloated and is just unbelievably huge.

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Re:Amazon 'prepares mass job cuts' as sales slow by scarface74 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @07:24PM (#33617223)

I was actually off. It’s skip*7

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