Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal

Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by m000 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @06:51AM (#33608040)

Using a fez (or fes, if you prefer) as a logo for a "Fast, Effective, Simple" framework named "Kemal" is kind of unfortunate/ironic. Kemal Ataturk actually abolished the use of the fez [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Revolution

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by atahanacar on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @07:39AM (#33608390)

This was my first thought the moment I saw the website. I thought maybe the dev's name is Kemal, but that wasn't the case either.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by nine_k on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @07:00AM (#33608102)

While Atatürk is likely the most well-known person named Kemal to date, it's a pretty common name, and it means something like "mature" or "complete" [1], which is sort of a good goal to reach, or a quality to advertise, for a framework.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_(name)

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by m000 on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @07:33AM (#33608346)

Check closely the wikipedia list: The name became truly popular only after 1923, when Atatürk established the Republic of Turkey, and it's mostly popular among Turkish people.

So, even though Atatürk was not the first person to be named Kemal, he practically "owns" the name today.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by zaid_brilliant on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @08:14AM (#33608734)

Kemal is an Arabic word. And its a loan word in Persian. And from the influence of Persian & Arabic its used heavily in Turkic and Indo-Aryan languages (Turkish, Urdu/Hindi).

It was mainstream even before Ataturk in India/Iran (Fars territory). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Kemal

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by jnothing on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @09:16AM (#33609396)

latest tweet from the official twitter account has a quote from Atatürk.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by aaa_aaa on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @07:21AM (#33608246)

Nah fez is cool. Also there are fictional characters with fez (eg, ustura kemal). Besides Kemal Atatürk used to wear one, suited him nicely

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by habibur on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @08:24AM (#33608835)

Maybe that was his point.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by the-printer on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @11:29AM (#33611282)

That makes it even worse then.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by the-printer on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @11:17AM (#33611101)

It’s offensive.

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Re:Kemal: Fast, Effective, Simple Web Framework for Crystal by dorkrawk on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @12:03PM (#33611833)

Huh. I guess I always thought the hat logo was a nod to Sinatra ( https://sinatrarb.com/ ), given Crystals relationship with Ruby.

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