Re:Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible...
by pvaldes on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @04:22AM
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> The extreme false positive rate of COVID testing
So those tools developed in one tenth of time of the normal tests aren't perfect. Hardly shocking. All tests have intervals of confidence attached, because Science is not magic. Some people never really understood this.
> Blindly combining "of" and "with" Covid cases for cause of death based on those same broken tests.
Either you have a test that works or don't. If they detected covid most of the cases when people had it and failed in the rest, they work. Much better than having no tools at all.
It does not matter if you die directly by a disease or by the sequels of the disease. If people were not dying from covid, this still leads us with the problem that people were dying more often than in normal years. How do we explain it?
If something was proven between 2019 and 2022 is that overreacting saves lives and ignoring the problem kills people. Being conservative and overzelous in the middle of a new unknown pandemic was the correct way to manage it.
> Influenza, pneumonia magically took a couple of years off during Covid
Easily explainable when almost everybody was using masks and social distance in those two years and a proof that masks worked, at least partially.
> PCR testing cycles at extreme highs
I'm unsure about what you want say with that. PCR testing needs to chase an organism that is mutating at extreme highs so they need to change at a high pace. This is how virology works. The tests have a caducity time also, as any other sophisticated chemical reactive used in a lab. "But, but, they got rich!". Yep. A company developping a product in high demand, earn lots of money normally. So what?
> and profits of the pharma companies that coerced unproven, untested, ineffective "cures" that do not prevent infection, spread, or reduce symptoms.
To start, vaccines never claimed to prevent infection.
About spread. Too litle, too late and one step forward, two backward. Negationists and agents actively promoted the disease and deliberately created chaos. People was videotaped deliberately coughing in the face of other after tearing off their masks. The same people were videotaped later directing the mass to commit a coup and trying to sell information from the capitol to Russian agents. None of them where found linked with pharma companies (and is very unlikely that a pharma company would lobby for convincing people to reject pharma products).
Maybe is not really fair to blame pharma for this while forgetting the cultists.
Vaccines really reduced symptoms and saved people. This is true. Is not difficult at all to spot the benefits if you look at the data. Is proven empirically that most of the zillions of people that received the vaccines didn't developped serious collateral effects and died less than the people that rejected them. There are dozens of notorious antivacs videotaped bragging about the "inoffensive" disease, actively trying to caught it and realizing too late that were dying by covid. I agree that the main cause of death here should be stupidity, not covid.
So those tools developed in one tenth of time of the normal tests aren't perfect. Hardly shocking. All tests have intervals of confidence attached, because Science is not magic. Some people never really understood this.
> Blindly combining "of" and "with" Covid cases for cause of death based on those same broken tests.
Either you have a test that works or don't. If they detected covid most of the cases when people had it and failed in the rest, they work. Much better than having no tools at all.
It does not matter if you die directly by a disease or by the sequels of the disease. If people were not dying from covid, this still leads us with the problem that people were dying more often than in normal years. How do we explain it?
If something was proven between 2019 and 2022 is that overreacting saves lives and ignoring the problem kills people. Being conservative and overzelous in the middle of a new unknown pandemic was the correct way to manage it.
> Influenza, pneumonia magically took a couple of years off during Covid
Easily explainable when almost everybody was using masks and social distance in those two years and a proof that masks worked, at least partially.
> PCR testing cycles at extreme highs
I'm unsure about what you want say with that. PCR testing needs to chase an organism that is mutating at extreme highs so they need to change at a high pace. This is how virology works. The tests have a caducity time also, as any other sophisticated chemical reactive used in a lab. "But, but, they got rich!". Yep. A company developping a product in high demand, earn lots of money normally. So what?
> and profits of the pharma companies that coerced unproven, untested, ineffective "cures" that do not prevent infection, spread, or reduce symptoms.
To start, vaccines never claimed to prevent infection.
About spread. Too litle, too late and one step forward, two backward. Negationists and agents actively promoted the disease and deliberately created chaos. People was videotaped deliberately coughing in the face of other after tearing off their masks. The same people were videotaped later directing the mass to commit a coup and trying to sell information from the capitol to Russian agents. None of them where found linked with pharma companies (and is very unlikely that a pharma company would lobby for convincing people to reject pharma products).
Maybe is not really fair to blame pharma for this while forgetting the cultists.
Vaccines really reduced symptoms and saved people. This is true. Is not difficult at all to spot the benefits if you look at the data. Is proven empirically that most of the zillions of people that received the vaccines didn't developped serious collateral effects and died less than the people that rejected them. There are dozens of notorious antivacs videotaped bragging about the "inoffensive" disease, actively trying to caught it and realizing too late that were dying by covid. I agree that the main cause of death here should be stupidity, not covid.