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Re:Why are male testosterone levels falling? by ajsnigrutin on Monday November 14, 2022 @05:54PM (#33602543)
> Weird that this is framed adversarially (men vs women) when it doesn’t have to

If women decide to either take a planB or or get pregnant and give birth to a baby, why should a man cary the financial consequences of that decision?

> In procreation men are involved, but women are committed

How? Women can get a pill or abort, men are commited to pay for 20+ years of something they didn't want.

> Do your part - don’t leave it to chance

So, would you tell women this? "You don't need abortions, just do you part, don't leave it to chance! Pull out, condoms, and double condoms!"? Also, double condoms are outright dangerous, so is pulling out.

> Be a man, take full ownership of your own financial future

Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too. With modern medicine and some quick action, having a baby or not has become a fully womans choice.

And there are cases, where you don't even need to have sex to be forced to pay child support:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/11/woman-who-impregnated-se...

Even statuatory rape victims:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statuto...

Re:Why are male testosterone levels falling? by foogazi on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @12:26AM (#33605650)
> Yes, this is the idea... you didn't want a kid, a mistake happened, you need a way out too.

That’s my point - you can spend your life cursing your fate OR control your actions before it happens

Don’t leave it up to your partner, to the state laws, or chance

Should be taught in schools honestly - guys are in control of the sperm, no one forces them

Women only get pregnant when the guy finishes inside - 5 seconds of pleasure, not worth the 18+ years

Re:Why are male testosterone levels falling? by ajsnigrutin on Tuesday November 15, 2022 @05:48AM (#33607637)
So, by your logic, we can forbid non-medical and non-rape abortions for women, becase if they just don't let men cum inside them, they won't have any problems with unwanted kids?