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Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by ok123456 on Monday November 14, 2022 @09:33AM (#33594443)
It wasn't just 'The Morning Call.' It came from the top from the elite, international, consensus making publications like The New York Times and the Washington Post. These are the papers of record that have the resources to still do real journalism. We're harangued by them how 'democracy dies in darkness' every time we click one of their links, and yet they chose to give all these guileless grifters flattering coverage more often than not.
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by hotpotamus on Monday November 14, 2022 @09:45AM (#33594645)
Doesn't Fox News make tons of money? Do you think they could capitalize on this failure of what you describe as the papers of record and start doing investigative journalism into financial and tech businesses?
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by ok123456 on Monday November 14, 2022 @09:52AM (#33594752)
Fox News is primarily a cable news network that republishes some of their work as articles. Television isn't really a medium that lends itself to long form investigative journalism.

Why would they bother with it when what they're doing is way more profitable? They also have a reputation for being the partisan press. They'd have to completely rebrand to get into a less lucrative area.

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by hotpotamus on Monday November 14, 2022 @10:04AM (#33594975)
I'm told that all press is the partisan press of one side or the other, but it seems that there is little to no investigative reporting done by the conservative media - I wonder if it's an opportunity.
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by leereeves on Monday November 14, 2022 @10:23AM (#33595285)
Any investigative reporting that is done by the conservative press (like Hunter Biden's laptop) just gets dismissed as misinformation.
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by ok123456 on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:40PM (#33598789)
Prefacing this with the coordinated media blackout on the laptop story was horrendous. You couldn't even send a message using Messenger to a friend about it.

The long form journalism that the partisan press produces, both sides here, amounts to little more than fan service. It's incapable of investigating things out of public interest without it relating to their kayfabe. MSNBC can produce thousands of hours about Trump/Russia, but the for the Snowden leaks you get a few seconds of a professional talking head telling you how Snowden is a bad man.

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by jen20 on Monday November 14, 2022 @10:57AM (#33595875)
Fox News is not investigating complex issues because investigating complex issues is not within their remit. Their remit is to repeat simple memes that form easy sound bites for viewers receptive to that kind of thing.

The WSJ on the other hand has excellent investigative journalism which is usually well separated from conservative partisan commentary - see Carreyrou as a good example.

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by yamtaddle on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:26AM (#33596452)
> it seems that there is little to no investigative reporting done by the conservative media

There is, but if you're ever exposed to it it's probably in the context of brutal point-by-point debunking. On account of how it tends to be hilariously bad. Like that recent Mules "documentary" from D'Souza, or various Sinclair must-run pieces. Typically they're just very-slanted advocacy masquerading as investigative reporting. Or they take the form of popular opinion-jockeys running special "exposé" episodes that are also mostly or entirely easily-dismissed-with-public-info BS. Collectively, these seem to sate the conservative demand for conservative-flavored investigative journalism, and are all much cheaper than doing actual investigation, especially since you'll always find something to "expose" and there are never any dead-ends wasting time and money (since there's no need for actual substance behind the whole exercise).

If you mean from actual newsrooms, sure, those don't do much investigative reporting, but then there aren't a lot of conservative newsrooms. And it's not like the non-conservatives ones do much, either, with a few exceptions.

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by darkerside on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:10AM (#33596136)
60 minutes and PBS NewsHour beg to differ
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by SkipperCat on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:40AM (#33596733)
Shout out to Frontline. Probably the best television investigative journalism I've ever seen.
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by ok123456 on Monday November 14, 2022 @11:38AM (#33596694)
Those don't make money.
Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by MomoXenosaga on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:49PM (#33598920)
They don't but European countries fund independent journalism and documentary makers. Check out IDFA.

https://www.idfa.nl/en/

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by brookst on Monday November 14, 2022 @12:12PM (#33597308)
How do their audiences compare to everything else on TV? The fact there are two, made three, programs out of... what, 1000 programs a week? I wouldn't take that as evidence that broadcast TV is well suited for long form journalism.

They're often good material. But they are way way way fringe. 60 Minutes especially is probably only still around because it would be a public embarrassment to kill it.

I mean, the heavy metal sonic aesthetic is not well suited for Mariachi music. The fact that Metalachi exists and has a following doesn't disprove the hypothesis.

Re:FTX collapse, Tether operations have linked to online-pok... by adgjlsfhk1 on Monday November 14, 2022 @09:53AM (#33594772)
you're missing something. Fox News makes tons of money precisely because they don't actually investigate. If they did, they might find something resembling the truth and their audience is pretty firmly opposed to that.