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Re:Ur by pfdietz on Saturday November 12, 2022 @05:36PM (#33577860)
At this point I want to recommend the Fall of Civilizations podcast, available on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/FallofCivilizationsPodcast

Re:Ur by Strom on Saturday November 12, 2022 @06:00PM (#33578055)
Fall of Civilizations is absolutely amazing stuff, I double recommend it. It has an episode that covers this specific topic as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2lJUOv0hLA