Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen...
by kobalsky on Saturday November 12, 2022 @03:14PM
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> I find it unfortunate that all the effort that has gone into ZFS as essentially a hobbyist copy-on-write filesystem didn't go into btrfs instead.
don't some BSDs and Linux share the same code base for ZFS?
Last I heard FreeBSD switched to ZfsOnLinux as upstream a few years ago before it was merged with OpenZFS.
IMO calling it a hobbyist fs is a bit unfair.
Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen...
by yakak on Saturday November 12, 2022 @04:11PM
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Being called hobbyist software derisively by the Linux community is like being knighted, I assume.
Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen...
by ghaff on Sunday November 13, 2022 @08:51AM
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It's not intended to be derisive so much as a simple matter of fact that it's 1.) Not in the mainline kernel; 2.) Isn't supported by most commercial distros; and 3.) Has somewhat ambiguous legal status. For individual use? Knock yourself out. But I wouldn't approve its use for a company unless I had very good and very specific reasons to do so.
Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen...
by cmeacham98 on Saturday November 12, 2022 @03:44PM
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While the CDDL isn't a terrible license in a vacuum, it is (according to its author) _intentionally_ incompatible with the GPL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distrib...).
This is, in my opinion, the most important part. It's not some unhappy accident that there are significant legal issues with ZFS and GPL-licenced Linux - that is (allegedly) by design.
Re:ZFSBootMenu – A boot loader to manage ZFS boot environmen...
by ghaff on Saturday November 12, 2022 @04:04PM
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As that section says, there is (at least for public consumption) disagreement among then-Sun employees as to what the intent and beliefs were at the time.
I know all those folks to greater or lesser degrees and Sun was a client of mine as an analyst. There were certainly a lot of conflicting motivations and concerns concerning Solaris and Linux.
Oracle owns most/all of the copyrights and Canonical was willing to take a calculated risk after, presumably, some back-channel discussions. But those companies with something to actually lose from a lawsuit with Oracle or organizations with strong free software principles aren't going anywhere close. Oracle has had a long time to change the license if they actually cared to.
Personally, I find it unfortunate that all the effort that has gone into ZFS as essentially a hobbyist copy-on-write filesystem didn't go into btrfs instead.