Opening the North American Charging Standard

Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard by matthewdgreen on Friday November 11, 2022 @04:23PM (#33567048)

For legacy cars the likely answer is that people buy the $250 dongle. For new cars this will cost a few hundred bucks in parts and labor (or let's say 1-1.5% of the sales price) and it will be required surgery on your brand-new car.

Who is going to pay for this? If it's Tesla, then the smart move is to put CCS into cars right now (and as a side benefit, standardize their US and European models.) If it's the customer, then it's an annoying non-trivial cost you'll have to bear. Yuck.

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Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard by wilg on Friday November 11, 2022 @04:28PM (#33567104)

They don't standardize US and Europe because US is CCS1 and Europe is CCS2.

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Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard by matthewdgreen on Friday November 11, 2022 @04:37PM (#33567201)

Ugh god why. Didn't realize that. Rest of the point stands.

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Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard by Symbiote on Friday November 11, 2022 @05:48PM (#33567888)

3 phase vs 120V.

But it doesn't matter. The number of vehicles taken either way is negligible. In the old days, you had to change the miles/km speedometer to the other one when you took you car with you as you emigrated. Buying a charge adapter is easier.

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Re:Opening the North American Charging Standard by vel0city on Sunday November 13, 2022 @11:04AM (#33584260)

Arguing about 120V is a red herring. Just about every US home has 240V service, most cars will charge at 240V not 120V.

Single phase vs three phase is the big reason for a difference between US and EU charger plugs though. Three phase is pretty uncommon in residential areas in the US but is common in many EU countries. Industrial customers in the US will often have three phase but it's pretty rare to see outside of that.

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