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Re:Suicide by dkersten on Wednesday December 14, 2011 @07:52PM (#3354510)
Suicide is a selfish act

Is it any less selfish of others to force you to stay around and endure terrible pain (physical or emotional) because they need you? I certainly agree that you can and should get help, but I also think that there are cases when the "suicide is selfish" people are the selfish ones. Though, I'm sure that they're not as common as the cases where the person should have sought help instead, I don't think its helpful to somebody contemplating suicide to say that they are being selfish or doing something stupid. If it were me, it would probably make me feel worse.

Re:Suicide by stinkytaco on Wednesday December 14, 2011 @10:54PM (#3354959)
It would make them feel worse, it's a stupid thing to say to someone at the time they are dealing with it. But, and perhaps this is survivor bias, I don't know anyone who was suicidal who didn't eventually end up getting past that. Maybe the ones who go through with it are the ones who truly cannot deal with it, but I doubt it. Suicide is permanent solution to a temporary problem. I hope those people can get help.
Re:Suicide by dkersten on Wednesday December 21, 2011 @09:23PM (#3380058)
Suicide is permanent solution to a _temporary problem_.

This isn't always the case, even if it seems that way to outside observers, though I definitely agree that it usually is and that suicide should never ever be taken lightly. Most problems are temporary and seem a lot worse at the time than they really are.

I hope those people can get help.

Agreed.