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Re:‘I don’t want this kind of life’: graduate students quest... by dannymi on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @07:02AM (#33518213)
>Don’t you normally need an undergrad to start a PhD in the US as well?

Yes, but not a graduate degree.

For comparison, at least in Austria, you need to have finished both a Bachelor of Science and a Master of Science in order to be able to start a PhD.

That's usually not the case in the USA (and some common law countries), where you only need the equivalent of a Bachelor of Science in order to start the PhD. You then do a small version of the Master of Science in parallel with the PhD.

Re:‘I don’t want this kind of life’: graduate students quest... by chrisseaton on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:08AM (#33518560)
So the UK is probably the best model - 3 years undergrad, 3-4 years PhD max.
Re:‘I don’t want this kind of life’: graduate students quest... by hnbad on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:27AM (#33518686)
Oh, that explains why I see more Americans going for PhD (successfully or not) than, say, Germans. It never made sense to me because I was used to it being the thing you can do after an MSc/MA and those already seemed like a questionable choice for many jobs.