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Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:44AM (#33493786)
Astro physicist Johnathan McDowell[1] was tracking it. I doubt the Cotes d'Ivoire did an official investigation due to their general lack of funds, and China denies that the Long March can even reenter the atmosphere so they didn't go check it out. Here's another story that references local reports[2]. An article from Ars quoting the US Space Force confirming entry over the Atlantic headed toward Cotes d'Ivoire[3].

What more do you want?

[1] https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1260222397350887425

[2] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/13/21256484/china-rocket-deb...

[3] https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-ch...

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by xtian on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:59AM (#33493950)
Just anything more conclusive than social media posts. An actual investigation into these reports and purported debris fragments.

According to Wikipedia, Cotes d'Ivoire is one of the largest economies in West Africa, representing 40% of the total GDP of the Economic Community of West African States.

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @11:15AM (#33494116)
There are numerous scientists and government agencies on the record making official press releases claiming to have tracked the rocket debris to an area of Cotes d'Ivoire. There are photos in Cotes d'Ivoire of wreckage consistent with the rocket. Why do you need an "official investigation"? Who would you trust to do that? Why are you taking the word of the Chinese government?
Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by MichaelZuo on Sunday November 06, 2022 @01:32PM (#33495624)
The Verge article links to a 'local news site' afriksoir.net that looks really shady, similar to clickbait spam sites.

Registered on April 9th, 2019 with GoDaddy according to WHOIS.

It's top story today is just commenting on some Ivorian politican's Twitter feed https://afriksoir.net/lobognon-junte-goita-integrite-mali-jo...

And it's not linked to any established West African news organization.

This took me about 10 minutes of digging to uncover. So if Verge thinks this is a credible source that really speaks volumes.

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @02:49PM (#33496329)
Oh please, numerous scientists and governments tracked the Rocket debris going down over Cotes d’Ivoire. It landed somewhere there for sure. Analysts think the photo is credible. The preponderance of evidence points in a clear direction, we’re not trying to convict someone of murder here.

What do you think fell in Cotes d’Ivoire? What level of proof would be sufficient? Why are you so willing to believe the CCO line here? How have they demonstrated evidence to the contrary? If it burned up in reentry surely they have proof no? Where’s there investigation?

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by MichaelZuo on Sunday November 06, 2022 @03:50PM (#33496963)
You seemed to have entirely ignored my comment?

The fact is that this shady site was linked as a source, and it's in fact the first external link in a decently long article.

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @04:56PM (#33497766)
I hardly matters that the local reporting from the village isn't very good. The rocket is KNOWN to have gone down in that part of Cote d'Ivoire which you are willfully ignoring. What is more likely, that part of the rocket did land on the edge of that village in line with it's known ballistic trajectory or that it's fake and a bunch of scientists, governments, and groups watching objects in orbit are all part of a conspiracy?

You're engaged in gish gallop jumping form one unrelated small critique to the next while ignoring that we know the rocket didn't burn up and a hunk of it did land in Cote d'Ivoire. We know China lied about it burning up on reentry.

Why are you ignoring all of that? Why are you carrying water for the CCP on this?

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by MichaelZuo on Sunday November 06, 2022 @05:39PM (#33498249)
What? I've seen some odd trolling attempts but this is by far the most bizarre.

The local reporting is literally the only potential source of evidence that anything fell on land at all. Not just for this case, but for nearly all debris cases.

How else would anyone not in the immediate vicinity know if anything actually landed?

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @06:29PM (#33498781)
To clarify the things you are ignoring:

1. Multiple well known and respected experts like Dr.Marco Langbroek and Jonathan McDowell tracked the rocket heading at a low angle over the Atlantic towards Cote d'Ivoire

2. Multiple governments including the US released statements saying they believe it went down there

3. An infrasound station on the ground there picked up the debris traveling overhead[1].

What more do you really need? It seems clear it must have hit land.

[1] https://twitter.com/SinaZerbo/status/1260323482396774400

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by MichaelZuo on Sunday November 06, 2022 @07:57PM (#33499664)
Okay this seems somewhat more substantive though still a tangent of my original point that The Verge linked to a clearly untrustworthy source, which impacts their credibility.
Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by ch4s3 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:32PM (#33500792)
It’s just some shitty local news outlet… I wouldn’t except most real papers to have a reporter who just knows a guy in that random little village.

If you speak French there are some other sources from larger regional papers, but I didn’t dig in too much, and my vocabulary doesn’t cover rocket words.

Re:New Long March 5B Uncontrolled Reentry Tracked by Aerospa... by xtian on Monday November 07, 2022 @10:25AM (#33506986)
You have accused myself and MichaelZuo of "taking the word of the Chinese government" and "carrying water for the CCP" respectively (based on nothing), and yet you continue to hold up the word of the US government and military as reliable and authoritative regarding their primary geopolitical rival.