Re:People Still Think Their Smart Speakers Are Eavesdropping...
by scubbo on Saturday November 05, 2022 @09:39PM
(#33487915)
Given that that would be opening the manufacturers up to an _extraordinary_ liability if it was ever discovered; that many individuals are highly motivated to discover this behaviour; that it would be possible to do so fairly easily with network monitoring that's well-within the capabilities of many HN readers; and that to the best of my knowledge no-one has ever made such a claim - that's an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. If it is pretty well-established, you won't have any trouble providing an example?
You may be confusing this with the fact that recordings are transcribed to improve accuracy[0]. That's well-known and acknowledged! And for folks who _never_ want anyone else to read what they say to voice assistants, that is indeed a problem. But, again - the overwhelming weight of evidence suggests that the only data that is actually transmitted by these devices is when it believes[1] it has cause to do so. I have never seen one iota of evidence to suggest that smart speakers are designed to listen-and-transmit at times other than when there is a reasonable expectation that customers want them to do so.
[1] yes, false-wakes happen. That's also an issue. But it doesn't support your claim of intentional ("randomly" - I'm assuming you mean this colloquially for "with no justification", rather than literally "in an unpredictable fashion") transmission.
You may be confusing this with the fact that recordings are transcribed to improve accuracy[0]. That's well-known and acknowledged! And for folks who _never_ want anyone else to read what they say to voice assistants, that is indeed a problem. But, again - the overwhelming weight of evidence suggests that the only data that is actually transmitted by these devices is when it believes[1] it has cause to do so. I have never seen one iota of evidence to suggest that smart speakers are designed to listen-and-transmit at times other than when there is a reasonable expectation that customers want them to do so.
[0] https://www.rd.com/article/is-alexa-really-always-listening/, "What are the privacy concerns", for instance
[1] yes, false-wakes happen. That's also an issue. But it doesn't support your claim of intentional ("randomly" - I'm assuming you mean this colloquially for "with no justification", rather than literally "in an unpredictable fashion") transmission.