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Re:Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot by jrockway on Saturday November 05, 2022 @06:39PM (#33486684)
> You'll never know if somebody has lifted a bit of code in violation of a license anymore than you would be able to tell if somebody copy-pasted from stack overflow without attribution in any commercial application

Wasn't this the subject of millions of dollars of litigation between Oracle and Google?

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Re:Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot by thih9 on Saturday November 05, 2022 @07:20PM (#33486991)
For others like me, missing context:

> Google’s copying of so-called application programming interfaces from Oracle’s Java SE was an example of fair use, the court held (…).

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/05/tech/google-oracle-suprem...

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Re:Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot by jacoblambda on Saturday November 05, 2022 @09:58PM (#33488054)
> Wasn't this the subject of millions of dollars of litigation between Oracle and Google?

That was a very different case. That case was about whether an API/interface was considered copyrightable. The outcome of the case was that the implementation was obviously copyrightable however the interface was not. The background being google creating their own custom implementation of the JVM.

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Re:Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot by int_19h on Sunday November 06, 2022 @10:00PM (#33500584)
The outcome (SCOTUS decision) did not decide whether the interface was copyrightable or not. It decided that if the interface were copyrightable, it'd be fair use anyway, so there's no need to bother resolving that question.
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Re:Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot by seadan83 on Sunday November 06, 2022 @01:46AM (#33489907)
I was thinking this, but it is almost thr inverse. Api's without their implementation are not proprietary, but is an implementation without it's API (and surrounding structure) proprietary?
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