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Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:45PM (#33485496)
Then why are journalists not paid well?
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by kinkrtyavimoodh on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:46PM (#33485514)
Unlike programmers, their work doesn't generate revenues as easily, otherwise every blogger would be rich.
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by WWLink on Saturday November 05, 2022 @05:03PM (#33485711)
^ this is the best explanation I've seen so far in the thread.

Software translates directly into money. The company I work for makes physical devices - they have all kinds of engineers, but what we're making goes directly into making the company money. Like I can straight up say, they make millions off the stuff we produce for them.

If your work makes the company a lot of money, it's not frivolous to ask for a small chunk of it lol.

Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by Tarsul on Saturday November 05, 2022 @05:09PM (#33485784)
one could also say that tech companies get an unjustified amount of the money that should go to the journalists through their capture of ad networks.
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by kinkrtyavimoodh on Saturday November 05, 2022 @05:55PM (#33486274)
It's hard to say whether it _should_ go to journalists. Even before the digital era, newspapers largely made money through advertisements, not subscriptions. They were monetizing eyeballs just as much as the Facebooks or Googles of the world do. In their case they brought in the eyeballs through their content (whether responsible journalism or tabloid-trash) and monetized them through also showing ads to the same eyeballs.

The difference is that journalism no longer has a pseudo-monopoly on the kinds of things they historically did (content, distribution, eyeballs etc.).

My grandfather read the whole newspaper every morning. In one day I think I read a LOT more content than him but it is spread over a wide variety of surfaces, print, websites (no single author) etc.

Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by aksss on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:51PM (#33485559)
And we’re arguably far more tolerant of broken journalism than we are of broken code.
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by luckylion on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:57PM (#33485646)
Maybe we could try labeling broken code "opinion".
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by mjjjjjjj on Sunday November 06, 2022 @12:36AM (#33489032)
They generate value to society, not profit. Any amount of profit extraction comes at the expense of value creation.
Re:Programmers Should Plan for Lower Pay by saddd on Saturday November 05, 2022 @04:53PM (#33485586)
Collusion. Good luck breaking that up, though.