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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by simplotek on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:40PM (#33470753)
> (...) not being able to apply consequences to speech is itself curtailing your speech,(...)

No, not really.

Your right to speech isn't infringed if someone does not share your personal opinion. You're always able to express your mind about how profoundly you disagree or how wrong you feel everyone around you is.

What you cannot do is go around strong-arming people to shut up or stop expressing ideas you don't share. That is not a way to protect your right to free speech. That's just fascism 101.

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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by kenjackson on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:03PM (#33471192)
No one is suggesting anyone get strong-armed. Unless doing things like writing letters or boycotting is strong-arming. Physical violence, or threats, or denial of service, etc... are all out-of-bounds. But saying that me and my group of colleagues is no longer frequenting your establishment because you said you support our extermination is fair play, IMO.
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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by 8note on Friday November 04, 2022 @03:06PM (#33472087)
Denial of service is in bounds - I'm not required to do business with you.

I can't stop others from doing business with you, though I could convince them

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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by kenjackson on Friday November 04, 2022 @03:11PM (#33472151)
I meant someone overloading your email or phone so you couldn’t use the service. I agree with what you’re saying is in bounds.
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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by three_seagrass on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:35PM (#33471611)
There's a difference between "strong arming" and showing someone the door.

https://xkcd.com/1357/

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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by Plasmoid on Friday November 04, 2022 @03:25PM (#33472367)
As an honest question. By what authority do you have the right to "show someone the door"?
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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by DFHippie on Friday November 04, 2022 @06:15PM (#33474662)
"Showing someone the door" is just indicating that you would like them to leave. How much authority do you need to do this? If you believe the person being shown the door should have the right to say whatever they want, do you believe the other participants in the conversation don't have the right to say they would like to stop hearing from him?
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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by simplotek on Saturday November 05, 2022 @06:15AM (#33479923)
> Showing someone the door" is just indicating that you would like them to leave. How much authority do you need to do this?

Not really.

I have no right to show you the door at the local library or cinema or car wash or local cafe, or at your own home. At most, that lies in the right to property,which only applies to things I personally own. Consequently, in a free and open society "showing someone the door" is a right that's only at the reach of private property owners or people mandated by said owners to manage some aspect of it.

Even then, that right to "show someone the door" because you don't like their opinions is not all powerful and is limited in some jurisdictions which also recognize the right to equality and non-discrimination. Think about it for a second: how can you have a free and open society if you do not have tolerance?

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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by three_seagrass on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:20PM (#33476113)
Freedom of association and private property.
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