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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by PM_me_your_math on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:21PM (#33469252)
Enforcers: "Those are the rules"

Everyone: what about our freedom of speech?

Enforcers: those are our rules

New Boss: You're playing by my rules now

Ex-enforcers: what bout our freedom of speech?

New Boss: Welcome to your machine

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by kepler1 on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:39PM (#33469578)
Where do our free speech rights say that you are entitled to free speech on a particular channel or someone's private media outlet?

Somehow the notion of rights is being misunderstood or expected to put obligations on people or entities that those rights do not apply to. This makes rights soft and hard to disagree with, and actually less clear.

You have the right to say something. You can go say it at politicians making a speech, you can write a letter, publish an article in some newspaper that will publish it. Not the right to say it on Twitter. Or the New York Times, or whatever outlet. You don't have the right / they cannot be required to enable your opinion.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by toofy on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:47PM (#33469747)
so the new boss doesn’t actually believe in the ideology he loudly preaches?
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by harlequinn77 on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:33PM (#33470614)
And the censors don't like being censored. Everyone is a hypocrite
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by toofy on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:44PM (#33470829)
my suspicion is “the censors” are highlighting how elons actions are proving in real time that they’ve been correct all along: that the “free speech absolutist” position has always been detached from reality.

he is, as we speak—and will continue to prove in the future—that “the censors” have been correct all along, social spaces of a certain number of people, if you don’t want the visitors to flee en masse, will need moderation to keep things from breaking down.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by pojzon on Friday November 04, 2022 @03:29PM (#33472438)
Lets first speak about the present and present shows that all the comments about censorship were correct.

The outcry is real. Many many bot networks create massive amounts of cry content.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by deeblering4 on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:05PM (#33471228)
"richest man in the world" and "free speech advocate" are two ideologies in direct conflict with one another

substitute "richest" for "most powerful" and it gets worse

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by Eupraxias on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:25PM (#33471501)
I don't think either of these are ideologies, and if they were, I'm pretty sure they do not necessarily conflict.

I guess it is just a numbers game, but this whole page is one of the more unintelligent threads on HN I have ever seen.