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Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by prewett on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:35AM (#33467401)
We have about a century of empirical data that says that automation does not cause widespread unemployment. Automating horses took away all the horse-care jobs and business, but they found other things to do. Computers automated computers (armies of mostly women who chugged out calculations), and they all found new jobs. Nobody has a secretary any more. All those people responsible for inter-departmental mail are gone, because nobody sends memos any more. Nobody has live-in servants any more, partly thanks to washing machines, dishwashers, and microwaves.

Actually, in some sense, more people have servants, just that they are part-time: cleaning services, people who keep track of your schedule (executive assistants, but for normal people, can't remember the word).

When Microsoft Word automated away secretaries, it also raised the level of quality to be what was formerly available only at professional printers, so people spend the same amount of time, but now the expectation of quality of output is higher.

There can't really be widespread unemployment due to automation, because then labor costs would decrease and handmade goods would become more affordable, so people would start doing that.

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by SamoyedFurFluff on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:50AM (#33467677)
Actually studies are that people who specialized in Eg. Looming fabrics never found equivalent jobs. They literally lost their livelihoods and never regained that quality of life. I would be supremely worried if a permanent underclass of people whose specialties are automated away and there are no equivalent quality jobs for them.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by rendang on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:39PM (#33470738)
Good point, but as a counterbalancing force, those people still benefit from the economy-wide productivity increase in the long run. An entry-level unskilled worker has a much higher standard of living today than a skilled tradesman of the 19th century.
Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by duderific on Friday November 04, 2022 @06:10PM (#33474583)
> a permanent underclass of people whose specialties are automated away and there are no equivalent quality jobs for them.

Isn't this pretty much a description of the US manufacturing sector over the last 40 years?

Re:Twitter’s mass layoffs have begun by thedorkknight on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:52AM (#33467709)
When it comes to approaching the asymptote of the singularity (or just general exponential increase in tech advancements across the board, if you don't buy the general singularity theory), the societal impact of the car replacing horses means little to me in terms of predicting the future.