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Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by warning26 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:42PM (#33460169)
You need to think bigger — if the class action wins, it effectively would ban training AI classifiers on internet data.

Yes, we all want to stick it to Microsoft, but that’s not what’s at stake here.

Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by t-3 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @11:03PM (#33461525)
AI research companies can't be bothered to ethically source data so everyone else should just shut up and take it? It's not like the lawsuit can stop independent researchers from using whatever data they like, but putting the fear of the judge into big AI corps is a good thing.
Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by im3w1l on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:18AM (#33462141)
If this class action wins then it means we can put license restrictions on AI-training. "You may use this code to train an AI model as long as you release the weights under AIGPL, and any work substantially derived from the AI output is also released under AIGPL"

If the class action loses then this will not be possible.

Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by quickthrower2 on Friday November 04, 2022 @02:39AM (#33462950)
Internet data? Copyright, licenses like GPL MIT etc. mean nothing if it is just all “internet data”.
Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by warning26 on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:21AM (#33468220)
Whatever happened to “information wants to be free”? There is a post on the front page right now about how it’s totally okay to post copyrighted books online.
Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by mixmastamyk on Friday November 04, 2022 @04:19PM (#33473196)
It's almost like different folks have different opinions right?
Re:Ask HN: What can I personally do to fight AGAINST the Cop... by quickthrower2 on Friday November 04, 2022 @05:44PM (#33474242)
I think “information wants to be free” is more of an observation than legal or ethical stance. Even as an ethical stance where it might be interpreted as “DRM bad” I am not sure it also means “pirating good”.