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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by kodah on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:12PM (#33453240)
Honestly not what I expected to hear about Moxie. Any more tales that back this up? If this line of behavior is true then I think it's time to move on.
Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by hammycheesy on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:16PM (#33453309)
Reading this thread is what convinced me to switch away from Signal and investigate Matrix:

https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...

Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by kodah on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:23PM (#33453411)
Thanks, this was illuminating.

Ironically, from his website:

> In general, I hope to contribute to a world where we value skills and relationships over careers and money, where we know better than to trust cops or politicians, and where we're passionate about building and creating things in a self-motivated and self-directed way.

Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by esaym on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:33PM (#33453554)
Curious what all you had to do to switch from Signal to Matrix.
Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by capitalsigma on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:43PM (#33453708)
I was ready to grab my pitchfork after that first comment, but farther down:

>>Some time ago you federated with CyanogenMod. What has changed since then?

>What changed was going through that experience. It seriously degraded the UX for our users and held us back in the development process at many times. I'd estimate that all told, we lost about 6 months to a year of progress. It's something we'll probably never do again, and has fully convinced me that federated protocols are a thing of the past in this world of ours.

That's a pretty reasonable take: we tried it and it hurt velocity too much.

Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by Zak on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:31PM (#33454473)
There's a time for high velocity, and a time for stability. Federation, at least officially-supported federation is difficult when it's time for high velocity. Having used Signal in 2016 when that thread was written, it makes sense to me that Moxie felt it was a time for high velocity.

I'm not convinced that's still the case in 2022. There are a couple issues I'd like to see polished in the Android client, but I have not noticed bugs or missing features that seem likely to require breaking changes.

Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by gkbrk on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:59PM (#33453969)
Ah yes, velocity. I want my secure and encrypted messaging app to have development velocity so they can add sketchy cryptocurrencies, stories and giphy integrations instead of making a stable and polished app that can send messages and pictures.
Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by rch on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:15PM (#33453290)
Yeah, I regret ever mentioning the project to people.