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Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by shadowgovt on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:55PM (#33424806)
And perhaps more importantly regarding (1) than simple regurgitation: code does things. There's a real risk that if you just let Copilot emit output without understanding what that output does, it'll do the wrong thing.

Art is in the eye of the beholder. If the output looks correct as per what you're looking for, it is correct. There's no additional layer of "Is it saying what I meant it to say" that is relevant to anyone who isn't an art critic.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by Xelynega on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:52PM (#33431249)
Art is in the eye of the beholder, but it still needs a creator.

That creator had a vision in mind that's unique to them because of their experiences, and I think it's wrong to say that this image can be quantified as a location in a abstract feature space.

So to say "there is no additional layer [to judge goodness] that is relevant to [most people]" assumes there is an algorithmic measure of "goodness" that can be applied to art, which is an assumption you need to make to believe that there's any similarities with AI generated art and human generated other than "they look kinda similar".

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by fennecfoxy on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:09AM (#33436047)
Until 100 years from now, when more general purpose AI are having what could be described as experiences, and can be asked to draw a picture of how they feel when thinking about being unplugged/death.

We hoomans love to think we're special, but quantum tubules etc besides, we really are just biological computers running a program developed over our evolutionary/personal histories.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by Xelynega on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:55AM (#33436826)
Sure, in a future 100 years from now when AI is an actual general AI and not the specialized algorithms we have today, one might be able to argue that it does things the same way as a person(although one would hope it does then better instead, since that's the goal).

Until then we are special and we're just pretending these specialized algorithms are replicating the things we don't even understand. Anthropomorphising the algorithms by saying they "learn" and "feel" and "experience" is us as humans trying to draw parallels to ourselves as we find our understanding inadequate to explain what's actually going on.