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Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by Waterluvian on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:54PM (#33424795)
Because when I go to a live performance, watch a movie, browse an art gallery, etc., I am training my brain on copyrighted work. Every artist has done the same. No artist has developed their style in a vaccuum.

(See my other comment though, I am not sold on any of this being right).

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by peoplefromibiza on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @05:54PM (#33428110)
> Because when I go to a live performance, watch a movie, browse an art gallery, etc., I am training my brain on copyrighted work

you paid for it and enjoyed it in the way the artist intended.

> I am training my brain on copyrighted work.

too bad your brain alone is useless.

You need good hands to replicate much of the copyrighted works you "trained" your brain on.

> No artist has developed their style in a vacuum.

some absolutely did, indeed.

Just look at the school of film and animation that artists in USSR developed while separated from the rest of the World.

They are unique and completely different from what the west was used to (Disney)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qWBZattl8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qrWnS3ULPk

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by UncleEntity on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @06:45PM (#33428756)
> Just look at the school of film and animation that artists in USSR developed while separated from the rest of the World.

So they were developed in a complete vacuum including traditional things like theater, poetry and story telling?

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by peoplefromibiza on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:20AM (#33434008)
they pioneered new techniques in a vacuum, because they were segregated.

complete vacuum is a silly argument, we owe dinosaurs the oil we used to build up our modern societies, would you say that AI would be impossible without dinosaurs?

Do we owe the big bang a debt of gratitude?

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by systemicdanna on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:48PM (#33429481)
Both links contain great examples of late 1960s Polish animation. Poland was never a part of USSR.

Moreover, just like Czechoslovakia, Poland did not develop its animation style in a vacuum. They had strong artistic connections with many other European countries, especially France.

> They are unique and completely different from what the west was used to (Disney)

Not sure if you are an American... but Europe has a very old and very rich animation tradition. Growing up in Europe I was only vaguely familiar with Disney. The vast majority of animation I watched as a child was European.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by peoplefromibiza on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:16AM (#33433986)
correct, I wrongly used the term USSR to mean the eastern block.

> Not sure if you are an American... but Europe has a very old and very rich animation tradition

No, I am Italian.

I grew up with these kind of animations. [1] [2]

Nonetheless, the "animation studio" of the West, the one who won Oscars and was published virtually everywhere in the western block, was Disney

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV3BqbsyaUk

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Adqk9KD6Fk