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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by hnick on Monday October 31, 2022 @07:49PM (#33415057)
Well browsers solved multiple other issues too: cross platform apps, updating all clients in a single place, sharing data between devices, and the most important for many developers - switching software from an ownership to a rental model, killing piracy, and easy access to user metrics and data.

All of these (except logging on to the same data from all my devices, which is nice) benefit the developer at the expense of the user.

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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by TeMPOraL on Monday October 31, 2022 @08:52PM (#33415584)
> All of these (except logging on to the same data from all my devices, which is nice) benefit the developer at the expense of the user.

Glad you pointed that out. And, in the most prevalent application of Conway's law[0], those changes enabled and are entrenched by the "agile" practices in software development. Incremental work, continuous deployment, endless bugfixing and webapps fit each other like a glove (the latex kind that's used for deep examination of users' behavior).

It also enables data siloes and prevents any app from becoming a commodity - making software one of the strongest supplier-driven markets out there, which is why the frequent dismissal of legitimate complaints, "vote with your feet/wallet", does not work.

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[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by sirjaz on Monday October 31, 2022 @09:57PM (#33416008)
You missed privacy. The user lost privacy with webapps.
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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by hnick on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:49PM (#33416342)
I figured that came under "easy access to user metrics and data", but I did consider some kind of rhyme linking piracy to privacy but it was a little early in the day to commit that sin. It's probably worth mentioning twice anyway.
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Re:U.S. workers have gotten way less productive. No one is s... by mike_hearn on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @05:28AM (#33418842)
Yes, "updating all clients in one place" is what I meant by distribution. Windows distribution suffered for many years from problems like:

- Very high latency

- No support for online updates

- Impossible to easily administer

Cross platform was much less of a big deal when web apps started to get big. Windows just dominated in that time. Not many people cared about macOS Classic back then and desktop UNIX didn't matter at all. Browsers were nonetheless way easier to deal with than Windows itself.

Agree that killing piracy was a really big part of it. Of course, you can implement core logic and shared databases with non-web apps too, and the web has a semi-equivalent problem in the form of ad blockers.

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