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Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by maweki on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:57PM (#33411964)
You seem to think that modern cosmology is little more than uneducated guesswork, which is blatantly false.

That explains my downvote at least. Not a moderator, but a marxist though.

Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by NHQ on Monday October 31, 2022 @04:06PM (#33412156)
What's the opposite of uneducated guesswork? Indoctrination. Pretty easy to get there once you build models and everybody stays learning within the model. But models aren't real, and never will be.

The quantum never becomes real, it's a toy car, a model that works on small things correctly. Believing it also gets the big things correct is a truly a stretch, and just plain dumb.

Nothing about these cosmos is verifiable, it's all extrapolations and interpolations, in other words rationalization for the unprovable.

Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by magicalhippo on Monday October 31, 2022 @04:15PM (#33412289)
> But models aren't real, and never will be.

Of course they aren't real, that's the entire point.

A model is a simplified mathematical description which, within a specified domain ie range of input values, is able to provide predictions.

The models we care about provide useful predictions, ie ones that match measurements to a sufficient degree, with a limited number of inputs[1].

[1]: https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2011/06/21/how-to-fit-an-elep...

Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by NHQ on Monday October 31, 2022 @05:07PM (#33413150)
Then scientists plugged infinity into the model, which is not "a range of input values", and what popped out? Black holes, big bangs, heat death, an endlessly expanding universe.

Without infinity, cosmology as you believe it is cooked. Infinity is just a way of pretending it's not a closed system. Anything is possible in an infinitely open system.

Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by magicalhippo on Monday October 31, 2022 @05:55PM (#33413830)
Not even wrong.
Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by NHQ on Monday October 31, 2022 @06:29PM (#33414216)
THANK YOU.
Re:Hubble telescope peeks through 'cosmic keyhole' in photo by slater on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @05:35PM (#33427861)