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Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:25PM (#33410266)
Among the information labeled as disinformation was the Hunter Biden laptop which turned out to be true. So this disinformation apparatus ended up doing the opposite and suppressed true information. Not only that but the government knew at the time that this information was true.

Just label this for what it is, government censorship supported by big tech.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:42PM (#33410588)
I just love the partisan hacks that downvote facts because they don’t like this. So Hacker News.
Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by acdha on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:32PM (#33410407)
> Among the information labeled as disinformation was the Hunter Biden laptop which turned out to be true.

What, specifically, was labeled as disinformation but later turned out to be true? Please cite sources so we can be talking about the same things.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:37PM (#33410487)
Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by acdha on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:00PM (#33410958)
Can you be more specific? What specific claims were labeled as disinformation by whom?

This matters because what was covered at the time was that the laptop was known not to have a good chain of custody. At the time, journalists at the NYT, WaPo, and others reported that they were able to verify some of the emails but that large amounts of data were hard to validate and the lack of a clean forensic history made it hard to confirm validity for many of the files because there were clear signs of access and modification after it had left Hunter Biden’s control. Nothing which has come out since then has changed that, and the general consensus outside of movement conservatives seems to be that the main thing politicizing this did is to make it harder for the DOJ and other investigators to prove anything to a legal standard.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:06PM (#33411053)
Nope. The New York Times and others ran headlines that front lined that it was Russian disinformation. They didn't talk much about how the emails were verified. In fact Glenn Greenwald quit because his editor tried to suppress his story on it.
Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by acdha on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:36PM (#33411562)
If that was true, you’d be able to provide a source. Instead, you’re linking to things like this story which do not say what you’re claiming:

> No concrete evidence has emerged that the laptop contains Russian disinformation.

> John Ratcliffe, the director of national intelligence, also told Fox Business Network that the “laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20201022234605/https://www.nytim...

Again, can you cite a specific claim made by a specific entity at a specific time? Your feelings don’t give the rest of us much to work with.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by unethical_ban on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:20PM (#33411280)
1) Would/could a reputable news agency validate chain of custody/authenticity of those emails at the time the rag first dropped them?

2) Though it is beside the pint of the discussion of disinformation, I'm interested to hear from someone I assume is actally human tell me if the email contents would affect an individual's choice in the 2020 election. The alleged corruption of a politician's son would stack against the overtly corrupt and anti-American behavior of the Republican candidate?

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by puffoflogic on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:29PM (#33410333)
Excuse me, do you have any reputable sources for the so-called "Biden laptop" story being anything but Russian propaganda?

Right-wing blogs spreading Russian propaganda don't count.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:33PM (#33410421)
Yes. Go to the New York Times, Washington Post, etc… Need a link?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by puffoflogic on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:44PM (#33410636)
The NYT is pretty unambiguous that the laptop is disinformation:

> Russian intelligence officers were using Mr. Giuliani, who provided the hard drive copy to the tabloid, as a conduit for disinformation aimed at undermining Mr. Biden’s presidential run.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/hunter-biden-...

Also, if you're going to break HN rules by using your account to do ideological battle and spread disinformation, maybe make it a little less obvious in your username?

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by fakethenews2022 on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:01PM (#33410969)
Did you not read that the New York Times changed their mind a year after your story? Go read the article I linked that was published a full year after your article.

Shame on you for spreading misinformation.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by puffoflogic on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:50PM (#33411852)
Ctrl-F "laptop" in your article only comes up with a link to the one I quoted. Nice try.
Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by jaywalk on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:38PM (#33410504)
How about the NY Times? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...

> Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop.

Either the NY Times is a "right-wing blog spreading Russian propaganda" or the fact that they based this story on the contents of the laptop is a tacit admission that it's authentic.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by puffoflogic on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:39PM (#33410521)
The NYT is pretty unambiguous that the laptop is disinformation:

> Russian intelligence officers were using Mr. Giuliani, who provided the hard drive copy to the tabloid, as a conduit for disinformation aimed at undermining Mr. Biden’s presidential run.

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by jaywalk on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:45PM (#33410649)
I don't see that quote in the article I linked. Perhaps you got it from an older one, where they were still pretending it wasn't authentic?
Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by oldgradstudent on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:42PM (#33410593)
What's the evidence for any Russian involvement at all?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/hunter-biden-laptop-...

Re:Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinforma... by tastyfreeze on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:51PM (#33410778)
Pretty much everything about Hunter Biden that was decried as "disinformation" or "Russian propaganda" has turned out to be true. The laptop story was squelched just prior to the election.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/01/new-york-times-finally-admit-h...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-...