Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by ars on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:42PM
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> The speed can be governed
You sure? Applying brakes to someone rolling downhill can make them fall because their body is still in motion, and now the scooter isn't moving at the same speed, and they were not prepared for it.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by Gwypaas on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:59PM
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They do it through the electric engine. It's a bit of a jerky motion, like allowing 1-3 km/h over and then braking down to 20 km/h. After a while you do not even notice it.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by MichaelCollins on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:57PM
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Ideally the brake is applied to limit speed, not reduce it. To keep you capped at a safe speed, rather than allowing an unsafe speed to be reached then slamming on the brakes to reduce it.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by eshyong on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:55PM
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I think they meant the scooters have firmware which can limit the top speed of the rider.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by sanedigital on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:41PM
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1. Not downhill.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by krisoft on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:52PM
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Why not? The same brushless motors could be also used to brake the scooter could they not?
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by kqr on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:58PM
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I haven't run the numbers but at that size I would expect them to get very, very warm.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by kaba0 on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:27PM
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Couldn’t they just do a controlled spark at high enough voltage?
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by mmh0000 on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:54PM
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1. Regen braking
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by sanedigital on Friday November 11, 2022 @10:21AM
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Sure, up to a certain grade. But regen braking isn't working down hills like the ones in SF.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by Gwypaas on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:57PM
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All the ones in Sweden use the electric motor to govern the speed downhill, limited to 20 km/h.
Re:Electric scooter ban increased congestion by 10% in Atlanta
by Zak on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:59PM
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I've tested this. The fastest I could get a Voi scooter in Germany to go downhill was 27 km/h. They're limited to 20 km/h on level ground and gradually start braking if they exceed that speed downhill.
It might be possible to find a hill steep enough to overcome the braking force, or one that results in a strong enough braking force to make the scooter difficult to control, but it should be obvious to most people that attempting such a thing is dangerous.
2. Agreed. Crazy to me that people ride these without helmets. There's also foldable helmets for people annoyed by the size of regular ones. Protected bike lanes also improve this.
That said, banning scooters is a step backward.