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Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by kiba on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:10PM (#33396340)
For many people (including myself), it's not about rehab, it's not about penance, it's about keeping someone like this away from everyone else. He's a killer - he doesn't care about anyone's rights but his own.

I would put harm prevention above penance. Penance is just a tool that promotes caring, ideally before said harms become permanent.

What we ultimately want is that people who don't murder. Also, as someone noted, you probably reading too much into it.

Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by danielmarkbruce on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:17PM (#33396426)
"keeping someone like this away" = harm prevention.

You just state it more concisely :)

Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by kiba on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:19PM (#33396433)
It's about preventing someone from becoming a person who harm people.

Prison isn't something we should want in a society, but actively reduce, even if we never realistically achieve it.

Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by danielmarkbruce on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:34PM (#33396597)
There aren't endless resources. Actively reducing would take a lot of effort from a lot of smart people and I'd rather spend those big brains on improving math and reading skills amongst children, or cancer research, or diabetes research, or dementia research.
Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by kiba on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:50PM (#33396777)
There aren't endless resources. Actively reducing would take a lot of effort from a lot of smart people and I'd rather spend those big brains on improving math and reading skills amongst children, or cancer research, or diabetes research, or dementia research.

Believe it or not, a society with 300 million plus people can do many things at once.

Human resources aren't really fungible. Big brains spent on improving education of children can't really be reallocated to spend on cancer research or other part of medical science, not without extensive training at least.

So too we can spend on psychological, social services, and welfare which is what we probably need to reduce crime and overall human suffering to a more manageable level. Hopefully, the improvement to societal health means more resources are available that can be then reallocated to tackle the remainder of human caused suffering.

Re:How I Survived a Year in ‘The Hole’ Without Losing My Mind by danielmarkbruce on Sunday October 30, 2022 @03:37PM (#33397820)
Most won't agree with what amounts to "we don't need to make tradeoffs".

It's flat wrong.