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Re:Gigafactories are recycling old EV batteries into new ones by Retric on Sunday October 30, 2022 @08:48AM (#33394019)
First that wasn’t a 15x price swing, you read the chart incorrectly click on the 5 year view again. That said, Price shocks happened in both directions from COVID it’s just another supply disruption not any kind of a long term trend.

As to cost, it depends on chemistry but you need ~0.16kg of Lithium metal/kWh or 16kg for 100kWh battery pack. At current prices that’s ~1,300$ worth of lithium meaning the majority of battery pack costs are still from manufacturing and other materials.

https://www.dailymetalprice.com/metalpricecharts.php?c=li&u=...

Re:Gigafactories are recycling old EV batteries into new ones by popol12 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:50AM (#33394496)
November 2020: 40k$ Today: 562k$ Okay, 14x, not 15x

But yeah, on average if you look to previous price, maybe it's more of x8 price increase. 18 month ago was the all time low of the data on tradingview, I give you that.

About the weight details, are you sure your figures are correct? First result on google gives me way higher numbers (minimum 80g/kwh, but likely more than 160g/kwh) https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-much-lithium-li-ion-vehic... Also, another comment in this thread gives 60g/kwh, and another 160g/kwh

Re:Gigafactories are recycling old EV batteries into new ones by Retric on Sunday October 30, 2022 @10:39AM (#33394855)
> minimum 80g/kwh, but likely more than 160g/kwh

Units… 160g/kwh is 0.16kg/kWh, 80g/kWh is 0.08kg/kWh

But yes, it varies based on chemistry. 0.16kg/kWh is on the high end.

Re:Gigafactories are recycling old EV batteries into new ones by popol12 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @01:04PM (#33396236)
My bad, I read 16g/kwh. Nevermind.