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Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by tgv on Sunday October 30, 2022 @05:12AM (#33392638)
> ... Twitter ... honest and ethical

That's, IMO, an absurd contradiction. If you value honesty and ethics, you don't work at twitter. It's detrimental to mental health and society, possibly more so than facebook, just for the money.

And now Musk might try to use it for his own political and financial agenda. If that risk is serious, running twitter into the ground might be the most ethical thing an employee could do.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by tourist2d on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:08AM (#33392976)
> It's detrimental to mental health and society

Got a source for that? Sounds like you expanded that personal anecdote a bit too much.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by plq on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:17AM (#33393043)
> ... running twitter into the ground might be the most ethical thing an employee could do.

Is this what you said during your hypothetical interview with Twitter? If yes, be my guest. If not, you should abide by the promises you made to your employers.

It's got nothing to do with "self-imposed honor code" or whatever terms people come up with to belittle people with integrity. You made a promise when you accepted that offer. You either stand by that or quit.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by tgv on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:58AM (#33393309)
"Aye, sir!"

It's not the navy. You're not under orders. They can fire you if they want. But if that's not enough for you: promises and loyalty works boths ways. Suppose you're a veteran at twitter. The company (you thought) joined is not what it is today. You're not bound to any original promises.

Furthermore, you didn't make any promises. You signed a contract, which is only partly binding (check your jurisdiction for details; e.g., where I live, a non-compete clause is frequently overruled by a judge). You didn't promise to increase shareholder value on your mother's life.

Finally, when the interests are substantial enough, ethics trump loyalty and honor. I don't think I have to substantiate that.

Of course, this doesn't hold when you adhere to some kind of "corporatism", where the state and/or corporations decide what's good for you.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by plq on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:04AM (#33393348)
I don't think we disagree. You don't like the company you work for? You Quit. You think it's not the company you joined some time ago? You Quit. I can go on and on like this. You didn't promise to increase shareholder value, but you did promise you would try in good faith.

None of this justifies willfully harming your employer.

Edit: One of the things that is an exception I believe is whistle blowing. You may expose stuff you deem unacceptable or harmful to the general public. But I guess that's about it. Of course this all depends on your jurisdiction.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by jen20 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @09:20AM (#33394269)
> You didn't promise to increase shareholder value, but you did promise you would try in good faith.

And by most measures, twitter employees did that successfully.

Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf... by Handytinge on Monday October 31, 2022 @07:56PM (#33415114)
> And now Musk might try to use it for his own political and financial agenda. If that risk is serious, running twitter into the ground might be the most ethical thing an employee could do.

I try not to flame here, but that viewpoint may actually be insane.

It's a job. You're not changing the world. If you don't like the politics of the CEO, leave.

You're not a freedom fighter. Real people in the world are actually fighting for their lives, their freedoms and the right to eat and live in dignity. Literally hundreds of millions. None of those people are based in Silicon Valley.