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Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by JDulin on Saturday December 10, 2011 @06:05PM (#3338737)
The most exciting part is that once a few large companies like FOXCONN make a commitment to robotic manufacturing, we may be able to see the exponential decreases in robot costs we have been waiting for as they want cheaper sensors and actuators in larger quantities. Robotics have been (and are) incredibly expensive, but but we are reaching a point where the price will begin to plummet.
Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by dangrossman on Saturday December 10, 2011 @06:35PM (#3338799)
This doesn't excite me, it scares me. A rapid transition to robotic manufacturing could mean a very rough time for an entire generation of human workers.
Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by FD3SA on Saturday December 10, 2011 @07:02PM (#3338850)
A very salient point, which is a frequent discussion topic on HN. If you are interested, the following books are excellent primers:

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Against-Machine-Accelerating-eboo...

http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/

Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by ericb on Sunday December 11, 2011 @06:14AM (#3339853)
If you're wondering what society might look like in that scenario, Roman society during slavery (the robots would be the slaves) might be a relevant model to help understand the effects on the various economic classes.
Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by marcf on Saturday December 10, 2011 @06:45PM (#3338821)
Very cheap robotics will decimate China's low skilled labor force.
Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by kiba on Saturday December 10, 2011 @08:24PM (#3339009)
And who will supposedly buy all these good those factories make? The 1%ers?

Those factories only exists if they have a market for the goods they produce.

Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by gwern on Saturday December 10, 2011 @08:43PM (#3339046)
> And who will supposedly buy all these good those factories make? The 1%ers?

Yeah, pretty much. Human wants are unlimited. (To quote Boethius, "If free-handed Plenty should dispense riches from her cornucopia as plentiful as the sands cast up by the storm-wracked sea, or as the stars that shine in heaven - men still would not stop their miserable complaints.")

Have you read Chase's 'Plutonomy' papers from a few years ago? Fearsome reading.

Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by confluence on Saturday December 10, 2011 @11:12PM (#3339255)
You mean Citigroup's Plutonomy investor Memo:

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=2512...

It's not that fearsome.

Over time it becomes easier to give more value to more people thanks to progress in technology and greater amounts of money/economic wealth sloshing around.

The people who do something of value, or capture it, derive a huge surplus from the leverage provided by what's out there right now ( billions of people, trillions of dollars )

You can see the difference between Nikola Tesla - an absolute genius - who created the basis for all modern technology/progress and Google.

Even with all the value he created, he couldn't really derive that much personal benefit, as the utility of his inventions were low before network effects set in and there were fewer people with less disposable income to spend money on his inventions. He also got screwed but that's another story.

Compared to Google ( very smart guys yes, geniuses perhaps ) which started less than 14 years ago and has become one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world.

Lady Gaga ( 4 years ) vs. Madonna ( 40 years ) for huge success.

Avatar ( 3 billion ) vs. Jaws ( .5 billion )

You catch my drift. Feedback loops are getting larger and faster - it's like nothing stands still anymore.

But society is getting better.

Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by wisty on Saturday December 10, 2011 @09:14PM (#3339099)
> Those factories only exists if they have a market for the goods they produce.

You can worry about the computers taking over, or worry about humanity collapsing under the weight of resource crises. I know which I'd prefer. Someone's going to have to build all those wind farms, and retrieve scarce resources from landfill, and I'd rather it wasn't me.

Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by baddox on Sunday December 11, 2011 @01:57AM (#3339502)
Maybe if the products being manufactured by robots are only expected to be sold to the independently wealthy. If everyone else is unemployed, they won't be buying many products.
Re:A Drop-In Solution for Replacing Human Labor? Kawada’s Ne... by marshallp on Saturday December 10, 2011 @06:34PM (#3338797)
Heartland robotics, rodney brooks' startup funded by jeff bezos working on a 5000 dollar robot arm. That will really kickstart the revolution.