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Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by PathOfEclipse on Friday October 28, 2022 @03:42PM (#33376672)
If your belief system allows you to support genocide, does that make you better than someone who is doing something bad now that doesn't support genocide? No, I don't think your moral compass is any less subjective than mine, here. People act on and are motivated by their beliefs, and, if you're a Nazi, you're going to do things that move the world in a particular direction.

And, here is an article talking about how the Trevor project "does" groom people: https://personandidentity.com/mother-of-trans-child-poses-as...

And another on the same story: https://pitt.substack.com/p/the-trevor-project-undercover-mo...

Are those going to get censored if I post them on twitter?

Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by slg on Friday October 28, 2022 @04:03PM (#33377033)
>If your belief system allows you to support genocide, does that make you better than someone who is doing something bad now that doesn't support genocide?

Many people who use the term "groomers" as loosely as LibsOfTikTok already think of this "grooming" as equivalent to a genocide. That is my point. "Groomers" implies that the bad is already happening while "Nazi" implies the bad is a belief with undefined actions. It is the difference between being call a murderer and a psychopath. One says you already did something bad. The other says you might be capable of something bad.

Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by jl6 on Friday October 28, 2022 @05:24PM (#33378100)
False accusations of being a Nazi have on occasion led to successful libel claims, so I’m not sure it a whole lot less serious than a false accusation of child abuse (if that’s what groomer is supposed to mean).
Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by PathOfEclipse on Friday October 28, 2022 @06:28PM (#33378784)
To groom is to "prepare or train (someone) for a particular purpose or activity."

It also has a more specific definition: "the act of deliberately establishing an emotional connection with a child to prepare the child for child abuse".

Today, I think people are using the word to mean a hybrid of the above two definitions, namely, to train or indoctrinate a child into sexual deviancy, even if the person doing the grooming does not take part in it directly.

I think some uses today are also just synonyms for indoctrination, which fits only within the more general definition of grooming.

Re:Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far by slg on Friday October 28, 2022 @07:38PM (#33379392)
>False accusations of being a Nazi have on occasion led to successful libel claims

False accusations of child abuse have on occasion led to jail time for the false accuser.