Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by _hypx on Thursday October 27, 2022 @05:14PM
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The recent appearance of hydrogen energy storage has basically refuted this argument. We can now store all of the renewable energy we want. The only problem is the lack of awareness among environmentalists and engineers.
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Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by speakfreely on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:08PM
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My limited understanding was that the electrolysis tech is not yet efficient enough at scale to make this feasible. Do you have links where I could read more about the cutting edge in hydrogen production? This is a very fascinating potential tool for solving the "we don't have enough batteries" problem with renewables.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by _hypx on Thursday October 27, 2022 @07:16PM
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The lack of awareness I am talking about also applies to electrolysis. The current state of electrolyzer technology is already good enough to do the job. Future advancements will make this a no-brainer. This is similar to the rise of photovoltaics a decade (which also caught many 'experts' by surprise).
Some recent advancements:
https://www.energymonitor.ai/tech/hydrogen/toshiba-claims-hy...
https://newatlas.com/energy/hysata-efficient-hydrogen-electr...
https://energynews.biz/idaho-national-lab-and-bloom-energy-p...
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by pfdietz on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:38PM
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The problem with electrolysis was not its efficiency, the problem was capital cost of the electrolysers (so they could be paired effectively with intermittently overproducing renewables.) Efficiency was more of the concern when it was imagined expensive nuclear power would be driving electrolysers 24/7.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by pydry on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:35PM
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Hydrogen leaks like crazy and corrodes storage cannisters. It isnt especially practical.
Re:Why Is Hydroelectricity So Green, and yet Unfashionable?
by pfdietz on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:40PM
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The world produces and uses 700 cubic kilometers (at STP) of hydrogen annually. Hydrogen has been used on a mass scale industrially since the 1800s. The US has over 1000 miles of hydrogen pipelines.
There are obviously off the shelf components for dealing with hydrogen. This is not some hand wringing unsolved problem.