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Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by insanitybit on Thursday October 27, 2022 @02:32PM (#33361906)
Murdering executives? If you're going to be an eco terrorist be an eco terrorist. This is just useless.

Or if you don't want to go that far, maybe a protest that actually brings information to people who need it?

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by svnt on Thursday October 27, 2022 @02:52PM (#33362239)
I think it’s reasonable to decline murdering people as a protest practice.

Who fits your second group? Who is it that needs the information that doesn’t have it already?

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by insanitybit on Thursday October 27, 2022 @02:53PM (#33362247)
> I think it’s reasonable to decline murdering people as a protest practice.

If you say so.

> Who fits your second group? Who is it that needs the information that doesn’t have it already?

Climate change deniers, of course. Go engage with them. It can't be any more pointless than fucking up some painting.

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by svnt on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:30PM (#33364859)
Getting their opposition to engage with the brainwashed denier masses is exactly what the money wants. They can leverage money and scale to convert and you can’t.

Hitting them in the art is a bit of class-oriented warning, and if you don’t see the subtlety of what’s happening I’d argue that’s on you.

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by insanitybit on Friday October 28, 2022 @10:30AM (#33371808)
> Hitting them in the art is a bit of class-oriented warning, and if you don’t see the subtlety of what’s happening I’d argue that’s on you.

Sorry but this is just so naive. First of all this is not a "rich vs poor" issue. Lots of people who I suspect you'd consider to be "rich" are very much on the side of climate change action. Second, the very select few rich people who are making these decisions aren't taking this as a warning. Third, you are making the seemingly common mistake of thinking that art is for the rich - it is not. Art in your personal home may be for the rich, but this is in a museum that is publicly accessible.

> if you don’t see the subtlety of what’s happening I’d argue that’s on you.

I mean, it's kind of on them... It's on them to get their message across.

> Getting their opposition to engage with the brainwashed denier masses is exactly what the money wants. They can leverage money and scale to convert and you can’t.

OK so you're saying that we can't engage with the opposition and instead we should use subtle "class oriented" scare tactics?

None of this makes sense.

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by svnt on Saturday October 29, 2022 @01:08AM (#33381157)
You don’t understand my position but you claim it is naive and no one else’s position makes sense. I am not against wealthy people but you make a strawman to simplify your attack.

You have not responded to any of the points that refuted your points. I don’t know if you’re trolling, combative, or what.

You are proposing a simplistic first-order response “engage with the opposition” that has been going on since before internet forums were a thing, while calling me naive. I’ve explained why your proposal doesn’t work but you haven’t engaged with it.

Good luck with your solution.

Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by selfhoster11 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @07:07PM (#33365238)
In for a robbery, in for a murder? Some people won’t want to cross that boundary. And that’s even before we lose support for the cause from people who oppose violence.
Re:Activist glues his head to 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' pa... by insanitybit on Friday October 28, 2022 @10:31AM (#33371817)
I'm just saying they have better options. The nice thing about murder is that "support" isn't important. Everyone can say "wow how dare you" but at the end of the day a piece is off the board.