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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @07:09AM (#33342058)
> Hard to imagine it happening at that scale in the West.

I think this idea is quite dangerous and reeks of superiority. It has happened before and it could happen again.

Sister comment made a point about forced prostitution and human traficcing being common.

I want to make a point that to get rid of this as a matter of policy, we've had revolutions and guillotines. To enforce this, we have well armed, strong goverments with long reach.

The fact that this keeps happening in every area without a strong government -from failed states to international waters - undercuts libertarian argument quite a bit. Youd think they would move to somalia en masse and turn it into the promosed land

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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by logicchains on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @07:17AM (#33342110)
>The fact that this keeps happening in every area without a strong government -from failed states to international waters - undercuts libertarian argument quite a bit

Myanmar is a hardcore communist military dictatorship, I'd hardly call that a weak government.

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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by muststopmyths on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:02AM (#33343001)
Communist ? The communist party of Burma (CPB) would be surprised to learn that
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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by lupire on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:10AM (#33343112)
Evil doesn't imply strong.
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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by luckylion on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:24AM (#33342604)
> It has happened before and it could happen again.

Sure, I wasn't implying that it couldn't happen here, I'm just clumsy with words. I was trying to say it's hard to imagine it happening at similar scale _right now_, i.e. Danish fishing vessels buying slaves and throwing them overboard when they're too weak to continue working, in 2022.

I'm aware of trafficking, forced prostitution and indentured servitude with work in nail salons etc, but as far as I understand, the scale is (currently) very different, and it's much less extreme (assuming there are no secret mass graves we'll find in the future).

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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by WalterBright on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @01:19PM (#33346681)
Libertarianism requires a government strong enough to enforce the rights of its citizens.

Somalia is not a libertarian country by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re:The elaborate set-up of a scam HQ, staffed by people forc... by prottog on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:08PM (#33348694)
The "libertarian argument" (insofar as any one ideology can be summarized in a sentence) is for enough government for the rule of law to exist, with as many things as possible on top built by private efforts, not government. Somalia is about as far a place from the rule of law as conceivable.
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