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Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by rapsey on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:24AM (#33330853)
Ok name the countries.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by pdabbadabba on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:34AM (#33330991)
It might be an exaggeration to say that the U.S. is a huge outlier. I suppose that's subjective. But it certainly looks like an outlier in this summary of average wages of OECD countries: https://data.oecd.org/earnwage/average-wages.htm Average wages in the U.S. are, in fact, the highest among all OECD countries--and much higher than all but a few very small countries (Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Iceland).

I wonder, though, how well this holds up if you look at the lower quintiles of the income distribution in each country--i.e., if you compare poorer workers instead of average workers. I would not be surprised if the bottom quintile earners in the U.S. make less than their counterparts in the EU, and perhaps elsewhere.

Edit: OECD also provides average earnings by activity and if you look at average earnings in "industry," the U.S. is, indeed, far from the top, with many countries in Eastern Europe ranking quite highly. Of course, that could just as easily be an effect of the types of industry located in each country, more than anything. You may still need to pay an American far more to build an iPhone than a Slovenian, which is a question I don't think this data meaningfully addresses.

https://data.oecd.org/earnwage/employee-compensation-by-acti...

Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by alistairSH on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:32AM (#33330963)
Belgium. Denmark. Sweden. Germany. All relatively competitive with US on an hourly basis.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by slaw on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:55AM (#33331342)
Local grocery in Seattle is hiring, $26/hour. From what I read on hackernews is like entry software engineer job in Sweden.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by alistairSH on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:59AM (#33331414)
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by slaw on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:30AM (#33331944)
One is labor cost the other is wage. Two different although related metrics.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by sgjohnson on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:30PM (#33333627)
Cost of living between Seattle and Stockholm is also probably comparable…

But to be fair, US software engineer salaries are super high compared to everywhere except Switzerland.

However there’s still no way in hell a grocery store anywhere in Europe is going to pay someone $26/h.

Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by jamesdgb on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:29AM (#33330918)
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by sgjohnson on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:39AM (#33331046)
This is completely factually wrong.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by Nimitz14 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:40AM (#33331062)
Why don't you take a look at your link. Americans earn much more.
Re:The end of Apple’s affair with China by rocgf on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:48AM (#33331200)
There are too many to name, it's basically the entire developed world, which is basically NA, Western Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea.

Not saying the US is not more expensive, but it's not a "huge outlier" by any means.