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Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by qubex on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:48AM (#33329251)
Of corse I’m aware that I’m representing a minority concern and I’m well aware that as matters and principles currently stand we’re in a mutually irreconcilable situation. I’m not saying every effort should be abandoned.

I’m just saying that it would be mightily nice if those in decision making positions with regard to these issues and initiatives took the existence of this small and derided demographic into account occasionally.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by sweetheart on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @08:11AM (#33329430)
That’s fair!
Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:44AM (#33331127)
When the goal is to create a service with 100% uptake, one can't optimize for the minority position, especially if the majority finds it objectionable.

So what you're looking for if you want something like that is a developer that is not optimizing to get 100% uptake. That's tricky to find, because the people with money always want 100% uptake.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by qubex on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:31AM (#33331954)
It can’t have a target of “100% uptake” if it’s deliberately excluding some tiny but nonzero proportion of those who might otherwise subscribe.

That’s the bombastic reply anyway.

The more subtle and nuanced response is this is not a comparable situation because it’s not that developers are ignoring a small demographic, it’s that they’re deliberately working to make the environment actively hostile for that mini-demographic.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @12:51PM (#33333124)
> It can’t have a target of “100% uptake” if it’s deliberately excluding some tiny but nonzero proportion of those who might otherwise subscribe.

Targets are always aspirational. "100% uptake" just means "As many users as possible."

> they’re deliberately working to make the environment actively hostile for that mini-demographic.

Yes. This is because the larger demographic has made clear that they don't want to share the room with the other demographic and they will leave if forced to.

Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by yosito on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:05PM (#33333297)
At one point, a promise of the internet was to optimize for the long tail of niche interests and viewpoints.
Re:Bumble open sources Private Detector, AI tool to detect u... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @02:06PM (#33334123)
I think the internet, as a whole, still does.

Individual pages and sites (even the mega-sized ones, like Facebook and Twitter) don't.