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Re:WhatsApp goes down for users globally by londons_explore on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @06:57AM (#33328844)
I don't agree with that claim. While there is no e2e encryption, the number of people that can see the chats between me and my mother has just gone from two (me and her) to 500 (all the engineers on the telegram team).

Also, being based in the UAE doesn't inspire confidence on the privacy and security front... Nor the fact they promised to release yearly transparency reports and then never did so... Or the fact Der Spiegel claims they have evidence of Telegram handing over user chats to authorities despite the fact telegrams FAQ claims they have never done so...

Re:WhatsApp goes down for users globally by bombolo on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:12AM (#33328951)
You can enable e2e chats. But you lose cloud sync.

> Also, being based in the UAE doesn't inspire confidence on the privacy and security front...

Well the 5 eyes do not inspire confidence either, and that's where whatsapp is based.

And Apple has plans to automatically inform law enforcement from device scans. At least telegram client is open source so that is unlikely to happen on the client side directly.

Re:WhatsApp goes down for users globally by rakoo on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @07:57AM (#33329325)
> You can enable e2e chats. But you lose cloud sync.

You also lose talking to more than 1 person at the same time.

Re:WhatsApp goes down for users globally by gaius_baltar on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:36AM (#33330279)
And link previews. Groups are never secure, too.

Also AFAIK Telegram has access to the plain text data from stickers so when they are downloaded by a person on a secret chat, everybody with server access can also figure a bit of the context of the conversation.

Re:WhatsApp goes down for users globally by gaius_baltar on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @09:26AM (#33330166)
> the number of people that can see the chats between me and my mother has just gone from two (me and her) to 500 (all the engineers on the telegram team).

And everyone from all companies to which Telegram will sell the data once they figure that there is a good money to be made from it.

If they have the plain text data they can do whatever they want with it.