Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ...
by aikinai on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:03AM
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What crap that you can’t get rid of does a Mac come with?
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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ...
by yurishimo on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:21AM
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Yea, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that cannot be uninstalled. Perhaps iMessages/Facetime. Maybe they are referencing the fully populated Dock? Those apps can all be uninstalled though. It's not different than Windows or Linux showing you the default apps that come with the OS.
Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ...
by flohofwoe on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:08AM
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Most of the preinstalled apps (Home, Maps, Siri, Stocks, ...) cannot be uninstalled by dragging them from the Applications folder to the Trashcan. I don't have any use for any for those apps, so I would really like to get rid of them instead of cluttering up my Applications folder.
For some others it works (for instance Numbers and GarageBand). The randomness (why can some preinstalled apps be uninstalled, but other not) is pretty close to a dark pattern.
Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ...
by yurishimo on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:25AM
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I don't think you can uninstall Cortana or Calculator from Windows. The stocks app I will grant is a little weird.
The uninstallable apps on macOS also are never required to have open and running. So yea, it's 4 or 5 extra items in your main ~/Applications folder, but that seems like a small price to pay for all of the other benefits.
Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ...
by aikinai on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:28AM
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I see. Agree you should be able to delete those, but even if you don't use them, they're a far cry from "crap" especially in the context of the discussion about exploitative bloatware that runs constantly and makes low-end laptops unusable.
None of the extra Apple apps do anything unless you run them, so the worst case they take some storage and mental space (when you see them in your Applications folder). And they're obviously included because Apple thinks they're actually useful to enough people, even if you disagree.