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Re:US 4th, 8th grade math scores post significant decline fo... by eesmith on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:19AM (#33314127)
This might make sense if:

1) I hadn't heard people making exactly the same argument since I was a kid in the 1970s,

2) I've read even older accounts making identical claims,

3) there was no correlation with covid,

4) western society hadn't had many changes over the last 150 years in the way learning is done. (My grandfather's high school education was very different than mine, as I describe out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25574534 .), and

5) education in the US, except of the children of the rich, has always been intimately connected with politics. If there were a golden era where education wasn't ruined, then it was because of politics.

Re:US 4th, 8th grade math scores post significant decline fo... by tstrimple on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:23PM (#33322842)
WRT point 1:

> "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

> ~ Socrates

One human constant seems to be thinking that future generations are the worst.