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Re:Rails Is Not For Beginners by envex on Thursday December 08, 2011 @09:24AM (#3329141)
To be fair, you went from PHP > Ruby.

You can't really call a framework a language.

Re:Rails Is Not For Beginners by pankajdoharey on Thursday December 08, 2011 @11:52AM (#3329844)
True PHP is weird A Language + Framework in one. Or you can call it a webDSL if you want.