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Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by teruakohatu on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:28PM (#33283741)
> The systems are static ... We only see frequent software updates today because the systems are barely more then public betas.

No absolutely not. FSD models are going to need continuous updates. All real-world models exhibit "model drift". Over time most models perform less well. Real world models are monitored and retrained when needed.

Example would be when a city, state or country changes a road sign or introduces a new road sign, so a strange looking vehicle like a CyberTruck starts making an appearance on the road.

Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by gbin on Friday October 21, 2022 @05:21AM (#33286161)
Or simply the maps the car needs to rely on to find your route to your destination...
Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by alistairSH on Friday October 21, 2022 @09:30AM (#33287802)
Road sign designs don't change very often. No way consumers should be forced into a perpetual monthly subscription for something that probably needs updates every 5 years or so. Not sure how it should work long-term, but a monthly subscription for a mature system sounds wrong to me.

If the FSD relies on published maps to work, it's already doomed. Road layouts change way too frequently (sometimes temporary, for construction) for that to be a requirement.

Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by lamontcg on Friday October 21, 2022 @01:56PM (#33291023)
It also shouldn't really matter what kind of vehicle are out there.

If I see some weird looking car I've never seen before, I just treat it like every other car.

Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by diebeforei485 on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:49PM (#33325174)
Except a driver assistance system might think it's a plastic bag or a mirage and not a car at all.
Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by caf on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:27AM (#33326585)
You might be surprised the first time, but the next time you see one you'll treat it like any other car, because you're always learning.

These systems separate the learning phase (training the model) from the acting phase, so to do the same as you they need to be able to retrain on new data occasionally as well.

Re:New Jersey Legislators Aim to Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions by imglorp on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:59PM (#33325247)
Nobody's FSD can depend on map data for road signs since those can change by the hour; eg road out, construction, etc. Vision for signs is probably fine when fused with map data. But more generally, there are all kinds of road situations that need a general solution and not a map one.