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Re:It’s Time to Repeal the Jones Act by legitster on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:41PM (#33266218)
So... firstly I think you are confused about the nature of the Jones Act. It only affects the domestic shipping industry. There is no overseas country to deal with. And to the extent that the Jones Act creates deadweight loss, it only penalizes the deal with the local baker.

>This should be pretty obvious because any money sent overseas stops being multiplied, even if you end up spending the same amount of money total.

Even given the above, I have no idea why you would assume this to be true. If someone in a foreign country is paid in US Dollars, the most likely thing to do with it is buy US goods or assets. (In the case of China, that is most likely US securities, but it's still not lost to the US economy).

Again, the multiplier effect is only applicable when dealing with an external input to a system. Otherwise, you are arguing that simply raising prices creates economic growth which is clearly not true.

Re:It’s Time to Repeal the Jones Act by stonemetal12 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:10PM (#33266571)
>There is no overseas country to deal with.

There would be if you ended the act and all local shipping manufacturers shutdown so the country had to buy all their ships from Norway.

Re:It’s Time to Repeal the Jones Act by legitster on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:30PM (#33266823)
More likely South Korea, where most of Europe's ships already come from.
Re:It’s Time to Repeal the Jones Act by kotlin2 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:16PM (#33267417)
> Again, the multiplier effect is only applicable when dealing with an external input to a system. Otherwise, you are arguing that simply raising prices creates economic growth which is clearly not true.

No, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that the multiplier of a single dollar is based on the percentage of that dollar that stays in the local economy.

> Even given the above, I have no idea why you would assume this to be true. If someone in a foreign country is paid in US Dollars, the most likely thing to do with it is buy US goods or assets. (In the case of China, that is most likely US securities, but it's still not lost to the US economy).

Yes, that's why I mentioned that my argument is predicated on there being a trade deficit. The U.S. runs a massive trade deficit, so clearly not all the dollars end up back in the U.S. economy. Buying treasuries isn't really relevant because each dollar the government takes in in exchange for a treasury needs to be paid back out.