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Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by wilg on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:02PM (#33252286)
I don't even understand the advantage of an iPad for non-drawing work. It's just a worse laptop with a too-small keyboard that can fall off and a square screen so it's not good to watch video on and an OS that doesn't do anything well. But Mac laptops are amazing, run all the same software, and don't have any of these problems.
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by themagician on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:35PM (#33252703)
I can't adapt to the workflow on an iPad either, and I have tried. I have really tried. However, I have seen other that have. To them the iPad is easy and macOS is overly complicated.

I am not sure if general computing is changing or there are now two branches, but I have watched other people do things on iPads that I consider impossible. Even simple things, like working in Excel, I find challenging on an iPad. But when I watch someone else who sort of "grew up" on iOS work in Excel on an iPad they are like some kind of wizard. I have found myself more than once now asking someone, "How did you do that?" feelsbadman.jpg

I think a lot comes down to muscle memory and shortcuts. While I know many/most of the shortcuts on iPadOS they are not automatic for me the way they are on macOS. I often have to think, "Wait… how do I do this on the iPad again," for even simple things. I even find drawing applications unintuitive. In the Adobe suite everything is explicit. In Procreate everything is unlabeled. This is even true in consumer applications, like Facebook vs Snapchat. Pinch here, tap there. Swipe from one of the four sides to reveal some function that is completely hidden. But for some people this is intuitive. There is an additional layer (or two) of UI abstraction in iOS/iPadOS that I have not internalized.

There definitely ARE some things you can't do on an iPad, but that list is actually shorter than you might think. There are a lot of things that you can do, they are just done differently… and in a way that, at least for me, seems to take a lot more work.

Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by alistairSH on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:08PM (#33253149)
I have an iPad Pro M1 11" with the Magic Keyboard.

It doesn't fall off or detach unexpectedly at all. And the keyboard size is close enough to "normal" that I don't notice for normal typing. The only thing I miss is a dedicated ESC key.

All that said, it only replaced my personal laptop. I continue to use a 13" MBP at work.

Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by 1123581321 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:38PM (#33253550)
You can map caps lock to esc on the Magic Keyboard.
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by wilg on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:58PM (#33253839)
But why do you prefer this over a laptop?
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by alistairSH on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @06:30PM (#33254954)
For personal use… I like the size, it’s a bit more portable than a 13” laptop (0.5lb lighter with Magic Keyboard, 2.7lb lighter on its own), smaller footprint). It does everything I need (surfing, streaming, email, FaceTime).

Would I be happy with a 13” MBA as my personal device? Sure. I basically flipped a coin - the iPad won because shiny new thing.

For work, inability to run Docker/VMs and install VSCode is a deal breaker.

Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by thih9 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @06:25PM (#33254880)
Work is not always about content creation, some people work mostly by consuming content (reading websites, browsing photos, selecting movie clips, navigating PDFs, or something else) and iPad is great for consuming content.
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by wilg on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:46PM (#33257368)
But not as good as a Mac at any of those tasks?
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by thih9 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:34AM (#33258873)
Could you elaborate? In what way?
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by wilg on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:30PM (#33268158)
Well I can use the exact same apps on the Mac to do all of those things, so there is functional parity. But you get the advantage of a more precise pointing device, keyboard, and an OS that lets me easily have multiple things open at once. Video is certainly better to watch on a Mac, since it's got the correctly shaped screen and doesn't fall over when you set it down.
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by stouset on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:23PM (#33267496)
What is so hard to understand about the fact that this is for you and not necessarily for everyone?
Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by wilg on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:26PM (#33268128)
That's not hard to understand. I just think it's probably true for most people, not necessarily true for everyone.

Plus, I'm interested if the person I'm replying to actually thinks it's _better_ than a Mac or just "also good".

Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by thih9 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:51AM (#33275622)
For me iPad is better at these tasks i.e. at tasks about consuming content.

I guess mostly because of its form factor (I can sit on a couch, no need to keep anything on my lap, I can adjust viewing positions easily) and the touchscreen input (to me it’s more immediate than working with the pointer).

It’s subtle; obviously you can sit with a laptop on a couch too, and touchpad can be intuitive as well. Still, for me it adds up to iPad’s UX being more approachable, more hands on, and more natural.

Re:New iPad Pro with M2 by pottertheotter on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @10:42PM (#33256879)
I think it's superior for reading. Newsletters, news, articles, etc.