Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by coldpie on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:56AM
(#33249375)
Okay. Can you please describe a theoretical attack?
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by rhn_mk1 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:08PM
(#33249582)
1. X sniffs my connection.
2. X learns my address uses Firefox on Linux.
3. X sells the data to Y, whom I never visit.
4. Y correlates the IP with Z's subscriber data, and adds Linux to my shadow profile.
As the sibling said, the burden of proof is on them. They are the ones who push that on users when there's no technical need.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by coldpie on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:15PM
(#33249706)
Surely that same information is made available by visiting any website, no?
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by rhn_mk1 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:36PM
(#33252725)
Yes, except the attacker gets it without visiting the attacker's web site.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by coldpie on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @04:01PM
(#33253044)
You lost me. Why can an attacker do this to Firefox's telemetry, but not when I visit https://google.com/?
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by rhn_mk1 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @03:06AM
(#33258675)
If you decide to visit google, that's your problem. Visiting mozilla should be optional too. Otherwise it creates attack surface area that wasn't there before.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by coldpie on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @09:06AM
(#33261563)
Okay, so in conclusion, the attack vector from analytics that people spill dozens of comments on in every Mozilla thread is not unique to Firefox but rather shared with every website on the planet.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by rhn_mk1 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:51AM
(#33263075)
Yes. Except in most cases people aren't sent to $website unless they request it. That Mozilla does this is an opsec failure for anyone using it.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by coldpie on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:52AM
(#33273916)
If any network request will result in this vulnerability, then why do you have an Internet connection at all? This isn't a Mozilla problem.
Re:Privacy online just got easier with today’s Firefox release
by rhn_mk1 on Saturday October 22, 2022 @04:56PM
(#33302163)
I can decide to connect only to trusted hosts. Having an automatic connection breaks that limitation.
You ask for a real attack, but you don't seem to accept the example that you were given. I'm not sure what your point is.
- source IP:port
- source OS (through TCP fingerprints)
- destination IP:port
- destination hostname
Now you have to consider where your packets may be diverted and who might want to do what with them.