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Re:TOTP tokens on my wrist with the smartest dumb watch by jgrahamc on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:32AM (#33244128)
TOTP is really vulnerable to phishing. Hardware keys are the solution.
Re:TOTP tokens on my wrist with the smartest dumb watch by rjzzleep on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:47AM (#33244224)
Yeah, sure, but then again a watch on your wrist is harder to take away than a hardware key on your physical keychain that you don't pay attention to.

EDIT: yes, lol, thank you for explaining what phishing is jgrahamc. We didn't know. I get that a lot of Americans and some Germans guard their car keys like an internal organ, but for a lot of people in the world a keychain is something you toss in an insecure place most of the time of the day.

Re:TOTP tokens on my wrist with the smartest dumb watch by jgrahamc on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:59AM (#33244311)
Phishing doesn't require stealing the watch. It just requires me to type in a TOTP token on a phishing website. Very different threat model than physical access.
Re:TOTP tokens on my wrist with the smartest dumb watch by vladvasiliu on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:51AM (#33244252)
It may be easier to steal, but it should have some kind of minimal protection. It should lock out after a low number of failed pins, for example. The YubiKeys do this.
Re:TOTP tokens on my wrist with the smartest dumb watch by throwawaaarrgh on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @08:40AM (#33246273)
stealing watches is pretty trivial if you practice. but also TOTP is just more inconvenient than, say, the Microsoft authenticator with biometric confirm and server push, or a token you just press that's near your computer or phone. the fact that these can also help defeat phishing is just one more benefit.