Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants

Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by Salgat on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:22AM (#33243626)

The problem is that nuclear plants only need to fail once to have global catastrophic consequences. Chernobyl was so catastrophic that Gorbachev blamed the Soviet Union's collapse on it. Solar and other renewable energy sources can never even remotely approach this level of environmental risk.

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Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by throw0101c on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @07:31AM (#33245723)

> The problem is that nuclear plants only need to fail once to have global catastrophic consequences.

As opposed to many other reliable generation types which have global catastrophic consequences† while running normally.

And by "reliable" I mean can consistently provide power more that 50% of the time:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacity_factor#Capacity_facto...

† E.g., climate change.

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Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by Schroedingersat on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:58AM (#33249408)

> And by "reliable" I mean can consistently provide power more that 50% of the time:

Compare it dollar for dollar.

You can get a lot of curtailment, oversupply, and storage for $12/W

Also if you look at France, nuclear's not doing so hot on the availability front.

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Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by throw0101c on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @05:26PM (#33254241)

> Also if you look at France, nuclear's not doing so hot on the availability front.

Meanwhile, in Ontario, Canada, where I live, nuclear+hydro generate base load 24/7 with little issue:

* https://ieso.ca/en/Power-Data

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Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by Schroedingersat on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @06:25PM (#33254881)

Candu's actually solve most of the problems the PWR constantly lies about. If people were proposing building those (and demonstrating that they weren't even more expensive) I don't see the issue.

They're hardly the super-100%-reliable baseload advertised, or anything approaching 'too cheap to meter' though.

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Re:Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants by PM_me_your_math on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:14AM (#33246607)

Solar and wind can never even approach a fraction of the baseline power requirements either.

Of course, it takes a significant amount diesel fuel, energy, and mining to make EV related equipment, too.

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