Re: It's Your Choice, Europe: Rebel Against the Banks or A...
by roel_v on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @03:32AM
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What are you talking about? The whole problem is that the Maastricht treaty didn't contain binding fiscal controls, and the requirements of unanimity for many decisions mean that, in practice, they're useless.
You seem to have a bone to pick with Germany and France (and I assume with all the original 6 EEC members) , but the fact of the matter is that they (some more than others coughItaly,Belgiumcough) at least managed to grow slow enough to make things not quite as unsustainable, unlike the more recent members who saw the advantages that the EEC member got out of the union but who weren't, let's be honest here, politically and economically mature enough to be in the same league as the others. It's not about 'oh but they did it as well!' - some could afford it, others couldn't, and shouldn't have. And it's their responsibility, and all this whining and blaming others now just shows their immaturity and unwillingness to take the sour with the sweet. (i.e., when my neighbor makes more money than I do and buys a BMW, and I buy one too and it's repo'd because I can't afford it, do I have a valid defense in saying 'oh but he bought one too?' Of course not).
(btw, I'm not sure how you can call 'fiscal discipline' 'righteous'. It gives off the impression that you have no rational understanding of the situation and just 'feel' that things should be in one way or another, completely disregarding objective reality.)
You seem to have a bone to pick with Germany and France (and I assume with all the original 6 EEC members) , but the fact of the matter is that they (some more than others coughItaly,Belgiumcough) at least managed to grow slow enough to make things not quite as unsustainable, unlike the more recent members who saw the advantages that the EEC member got out of the union but who weren't, let's be honest here, politically and economically mature enough to be in the same league as the others. It's not about 'oh but they did it as well!' - some could afford it, others couldn't, and shouldn't have. And it's their responsibility, and all this whining and blaming others now just shows their immaturity and unwillingness to take the sour with the sweet. (i.e., when my neighbor makes more money than I do and buys a BMW, and I buy one too and it's repo'd because I can't afford it, do I have a valid defense in saying 'oh but he bought one too?' Of course not).
(btw, I'm not sure how you can call 'fiscal discipline' 'righteous'. It gives off the impression that you have no rational understanding of the situation and just 'feel' that things should be in one way or another, completely disregarding objective reality.)